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Biden Recognizes Armenian Genocide

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  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member

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    106 late and in a possible further blow to the US Turkish relations Biden fulfills another campaign promise by recognizing the Armenian Genocide by the Ottoman Empire at the end of the WWI. This is also in a backdrop of further conflict between Armenians and Turkish allies Azerbaijan.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    Breaking With Predecessors, Biden Declares Mass Killings of Armenians a Genocide
    The Turkish government, as well as human rights activists and ethnic Armenians, had a muted response to the news, describing the move as largely symbolic.

    WASHINGTON — President Biden on Saturday recognized the mass killings of Armenians more than a century ago as genocide, signaling a willingness to test an increasingly frayed relationship with Turkey, long a key regional ally and an important partner within NATO.

    “Each year on this day, we remember the lives of all those who died in the Ottoman-era Armenian genocide and recommit ourselves to preventing such an atrocity from ever again occurring,” Mr. Biden said in a statement issued on the 106th anniversary of the beginning of a brutal campaign by the former Ottoman Empire that killed 1.5 million people. “And we remember so that we remain ever vigilant against the corrosive influence of hate in all its forms.”

    The declaration by Mr. Biden reflected his administration’s commitment to human rights, a pillar of its foreign policy. It is also a break from Mr. Biden’s predecessors, who were reluctant to anger a country of strategic importance and were wary of driving its leadership toward American adversaries like Russia or Iran.

    The Turkish government, as well as human rights activists and ethnic Armenians, gave a muted response to the news, which leaked days in advance, describing the move as largely symbolic. Later on Saturday, the country’s foreign minister summoned the U.S. ambassador to protest the declaration, state media reported.

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has repeatedly denied that the killings amounted to genocide, had lobbied hard to prevent the announcement, mounting a conference and media campaigns before the anniversary on Saturday.

    But in a call on Friday, Mr. Biden told Mr. Erdogan directly that he would be declaring the massacre an act of genocide, according to a person familiar with the discussion who spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose details of the conversation.

    A summary of the call provided by the White House said only that the pair had agreed to an “effective management of disagreements.” The Turkish presidency said in a statement that both leaders agreed on the “importance of working together.” They are scheduled to meet at a summit of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in June.

    In his statement on Saturday, Mr. Biden acknowledged the Armenians who were forced to rebuild their lives.

    “We affirm the history,” he said. “We do this not to cast blame but to ensure that what happened is never repeated.”

    Since taking office, Mr. Biden has kept Mr. Erdogan at a distance, calling other world leaders — and leaving his Turkish counterpart, who enjoyed a friendly relationship with President Donald J. Trump, waiting for months.

    After news broke on Wednesday of the impending announcement, Mr. Erdogan said in a statement that Turkey would “defend the truth against the lie of the so-called ‘Armenian genocide.’”

    Mr. Erdogan is widely expected to use the designation to whip up support at home, where he has increasingly adopted a nationalist-Islamist stance to retain his voter base. But political analysts said he was likely to tread carefully with the United States.

    Relations between the countries have reached their lowest point in decades, as Mr. Erdogan has turned increasingly combative in his dealings with Washington, particularly after a failed coup in 2016. Mr. Erdogan has blamed the bid to oust him from power on a Turkish cleric living in self-imposed exile in rural Pennsylvania, and by extension on the United States.

    Tensions escalated with Turkey’s deal to buy a missile system from Russia in 2017, which prompted the Trump administration to impose sanctions on Turkey in December. Syria, too, has been a flash point. Mr. Erdogan has bitterly criticized the United States military’s support of Kurdish forces in Syria that are affiliated with a group that has waged a decades-long insurgency against Turkey, and his own operations there have further tested the Atlantic alliance.
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    It's about time. Good job, Biden. All sorts of events about it here
     
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  3. KingCheetah

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    Biden is amazing.
     
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    I hope he’ll have my baby.
     
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    Buck Turgidson Mineshaft Enthusiast

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    ...said only that the pair had agreed to an “effective management of disagreements.”

    The bbs should be so lucky
     
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    good.
     
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    @dachuda86 what’s your take on this. Asking for a friend.
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob my celli weighs a ton
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    Erdogan with Biden at their next meet-up:

     
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  10. dachuda86

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    A lot of people died and it was very sad. What's your take on using people's suffering to get one's jollies on an Internet forum?
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Erdogan threatened to retaliate by officially calling what happened to the American Indians a "genocide."

    And few people in America will argue so have at it.
     
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  12. dachuda86

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    Should be plural. Genocides. Various groups who have been coined as Native American suffered for sure and at different times and in different ways. And hey look pointing this out solved nothing for those souls.
     

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