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Biden pardons thousands convicted of mar1juana possession, orders review of federal pot law

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Oct 6, 2022.

  1. CCorn

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    He’s the type of libertarian that just doesn’t want to admit he voted for trump. Not the other type you silly libtard.
     
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    mar1juana
     
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    Ok 56 seats, and they still had a 60 seat majority for a time and then 59 seats, while Biden has had a 50/50 congress and has gotten much more done.

    Are you calling me out on a technicality?

    My entire point was Biden had a lot less wiggle room and got **** done, while Obama had a 56 seat senate always in his pocket and even had 60 seats for awhile and a clear mandate.
     
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    Build a wall - didn’t do
    Have Mexico pay for it - N/A
    Put Hillary behind bars - didn’t do
    Get us out of Afghanistan - didn’t do
    Negotiate deals with both sides - didn’t do
    Make the rest of the world respect us - didn’t do
    Take no vacations - record setting golf rounds
    Nominate Supreme Court justices - did do
     
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    This isn't entirely accurate. There weren't 60 votes to pass a single-payer system and Joe Lieberman didn't support a public option. Ben Nelson tried to extract the Medicaid "Cornhusker kickback." Ted Kennedy died before Obamacare was passed and it had to go through reconciliation after Scott Brown won his seat.

    I don't disagree with you at all that President Biden has been able to pull of a lot with a 50-50 Senate. But we've learned that 60, not 51, is the magic number for doing anything over unified opposition and adherence to the filibuster. President Obama didn't have 60 votes during the passage of Obamacare (thus reconciliation) and a lot of Democrats who voted for it lost their seats in the midterms. Now the GOP can't repeal it because its components are table stakes in American life, but it took a long time to get there and took the wind out of Obama's Congressional sails. Tackling healthcare was such a tall order that vulnerable Democrats were less likely to go along with any other proposals after voting for the ACA.
     
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    I don't disagree with any of this, my point was Obama was way too passive and most of the people who lost their seats were going to lose them regardless because that's how things were swinging.

    I think the things Biden has been able to accomplish are harder because the Senate is even more entrenched.

    And it's like he stopped trying to get anything passed after that when he still had a majority into the midterms.
     
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    It is madness, I tell you. Reefer Madness.

     
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    And he passed the most consequential transformative legislation in decades.
     
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    Righting a wrong isn’t a bad thing. Unless you’re too proud to admit when you are wrong, which not a desirable quality in a leader.
     
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    I always said Trump should have done this and would have won some votes.

    Obama should have done it too

    and so should have George Bush or Bill Clinton

    Get out of my life big government amirite?
     
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    Yes Obama’s 60 Dem majority was only for a short time and it also was a tenuous coalition given some of his staunchest opposition was from Democratic Senators like Mark Prior. Still on paper Biden has faced tougher odds with only a technical majority and opposition from Democrats Manchin and Sinema and occasional progressives like AOC and Omar.

    What is more impressive though is that Biden has not only held the Democrats together he’s also gotten Republican support on a few major bills. Something that Obama wasn’t able to.
     
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    mar1juana decriminalization does have a very large federal component since it’s still technically illegal to transport mar1juana across state lines even from two states that allow recreational mar1juana. It also prevents dispenseraries from accessing things like banks since banks are federally regulated.

    Even Republicans that voted against the infrastructure bills are campaigning on projects from it. So those guys seem to think its successful.

    Agree with Afghanistan. We needed to with draw but the way it was handled was terrible.
     

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