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Biden, Obama Administration take credit for Iraq

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SunsRocketsfan, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. Pop Rox

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    AND OUR GREAT LEADER OBAMA DID SAY
    "THOU SHALT NOT DRAW PICTURES THAT MAKE FUN OF ME, LEST YE BE LABLED A RACIST BY MY FOLLOWERS"
    "MINE LIKENESS SHALL ONLY BE DRAWN OR SCULPTED IN WAYS THAT MAKE ME LOOK GOOD, LIKE THOSE LITTLE HOPE POSTERS THOSE ARE GREAT."
     
  2. basso

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    if you really see that, then it says far more about how you view the world (ie, strictly through the prism of race) than about how i do (i can't speak for the float designers).

    the presidebt is black- get over it. it's not racist to portray him as incompetent and egotistical.
     
  3. mc mark

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    It is if he doesn't exhibit any of those qualities. Oh, but you're still trying to "keep an open mind".
     
  4. basso

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    no, it isn't, any more than it was to portray W w/ those qualities, whether or not he exhibited them.
     
  5. Pop Rox

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    that is the dumbest thing I ever heard... so all the black people who apposed G.W. were racist too I suppose... I know you're going to argue that he displayed those quallities... Well that is your OPINION.. the great thing about that is I'm allowed to have one too. and my opinion is that OBAMA is a jack-ass, a terrible president, and is trying to destroy what's great about america... apparently from his sharp decline in the poles it's starting to become a pretty common feeling. I just love the RACE CARD
     
  6. SamFisher

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    And you and the teabaggers are the descendants of the White Citizens Councils of the 60's and their Nixon Admin allies ...literally, ideologically and demographically.

    That's not racist - it's simply true.

    Get over it.
     
  7. mc mark

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    serious question Pop Rox

    What do you consider great about America that Obama is trying to destroy?
     
  8. pgabriel

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    you're lacking perspective. you're viewing this through 2010 glasses. bush doesn't get credit because he started war and left the country stable. he had goals, of his goals what did we accomplish in Iraq?
     
  9. Pop Rox

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    It doesn't matter what I say you will tell me I'm wrong but I'll just say he is killing the economy give you a little info to read and let you blast away at me for not being a liberal
    He's ruining our economy with "Stimulus"... according to whitehouse figures the stimulus plan would keep us from crossing 8% unemployment. if we did not pass the stimulus bill our unemployment would reach 9.1% " a great depression" Obama called it.. so the stimulus gets passed and what happens? did we avoid the 9.1% unemployment that would constitute a "great depression"? No we sit at 9.7%. which is actually low because the government only counts those on unemployment, so if you are no longer drawing unemployment because your benifits run out you are no longer counted against our unemployment rate... So by his own data the stimulus has failed to stop our rising unemployment rate. The creation of new jobs that you hear about is a lie.. The current administration tried putting out a list with new jobs it created (around 650,000 not the 2.5 to 3 million that were promised) and the list was highly disputed. It included all kinds of jobs that were in industry that were in no way affected by stimulus. It drew so much critisicm that they stopped posting an actual number and began estimating. I don't only blame obama.. It's all politicians.. they are liars and cheats and will say anything to make themselves not look bad..
     
  10. Pop Rox

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    oh and just passing info along... I saw this on glenn beck so take it with a grain of salt... polls indicate that only 6% of americans believe that the "stimulus" plan has helped the economy... 6%... are the other 94% stupid? racist? uneducated? on the same note 7% of americans believe that Elvis is still alive. take it for what it's worth but if 94% of people polled don't believe the Stimulus plan is working than it probably isn't working for them. Oh also did you know one of the few small private companies that has recieved stimulus money is a small window manufacturing company who's vp of policy just happens to be married to Obamas weatherization czar. That's our government at work.
     
  11. mc mark

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    You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but you are not welcome to your own facts. An independent study just released by a consortium of economic research firms all agree the stimulus was a success and they point to job creation as an overriding factor of the success.

    This is not opinion, this is fact. It is indisputable. Here is the link if you care to read the whole story

    Judging Stimulus by Job Data Reveals Success

    But going back to my question, what is great about America that Obama is destroying?
     
  12. Pop Rox

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    really well here is an add taken out by 200 economists some Nobel laureates who believe that the stimulus is not working.

    http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/cato_stimulus.pdf

    and a good article with supporting evidence...
    http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/01/28/economists-against-the-stimulus/

    I know you won't read it objectively because I've seen enough of your posts to know that our Fearless Leader the Exhaulted Obama can never do wrong in your eyes... just please don't try and pass off that the stimulus is working because a few economists say it is when I can point to a few who say it isn't.
    Let me ask you these questions...

    why has Obama created so many czars?
    why has he pushed the healthcare bill that has proven to be in every poll not what the majority of americans want?
    how much did Obama spend of taxpayers dollars trying to get the 2016 summer olympics? is that fiscally responsible when our defecit is growing by leaps and bounds?
    do you believe that Obamas desire for the ability to seize the internet if he determines there to be a "cyber-emergency" is constitutional?
    do you believe that Obama wants a single-payer healthcare system? If so why does he say he doesn't? and is this a step toward socialism?
    Why does Obama allign himself with so many polarizing Left Wing radicals if he does not share those beliefs? Why does he appoint them to high positions?
    Like I said my answering your questions would be futile.. I can not change your opinion, and no matter what kind of evidence i present it somehow will be wrong..
     
  13. Pop Rox

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    Oh and i don't think NY times is the paper to quote when you want me to take info seriously. It is an extension of the white house just like MSNBC.. Just like Fox is to the Republican Party.
     
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    the same reason Bush did

    was Bush destroying America?
     
  15. mc mark

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    Are you that thick?

    The study was not done by the NYTs; they just reported what IHS Global Insight, Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s studied.

    Do you know who those companies are?
     
  16. mc mark

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    Okay, yer a loon

    I'm out
     
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  18. Pop Rox

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    yes I'm sure he was with his abstinence czar... How many comunists did bush appoint as czar? just a little FYI on Bush's czars, most he created were in response to Katrina and 9/11.. with several of them being temporary positions. Also in 8yrs as President he only created 5 czars that did not require confirmation. Obama created 17... in 7 months. I think all czars should be subject to confirmation before they are given that much power.
     
  19. Space Ghost

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    Pop Rox, please. Stop. There are only a small handful of liberal posters that can have a reasonable discussion. Resistance is futile. There is no point in arguing with people who believe the European model is the best fit for America.
     
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    Seriously, you have left reality. Calling a job a Czar means nothing. Obama has not tried to seize the internet. Obama hasn't aligned himself with hardly any left wing radicals. What left wing radicals have been appointed to high positions?

    You seriously are talking craziness here. I think we should try and keep political discussion to reality, not made up BS.
     

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