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Biden is no joke; will vote for him again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

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    A. What restrictions on the marketplace has Biden implemented that you can specifically point to that has caused economic hardships that affects inflation??

    B. So you are blaming Biden for the economy because Progressives "talk" or propose bills that aren't actually getting passed, but just the fact that it's talked about means that the market reacts negatively to bills and laws that don't actually exist???

    That's really some stretching going on there....
     
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  2. SuraGotMadHops

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    Cancelled leases, killing the Keystone when he first took office, sending too much money to Ukraine, sending oil reserves abroad....
     
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    No doubt there are problems and I never said he was a perfect candidate. Hell, he may not run and I might support someone else like JB Pritzker, Amy Klobuchar, Brian Schatz, a golden retriver running against Donald Trump who doesn't want to throw away our democracy because gas prices were cheaper at the height of a global pandemic, etc. But there's no doubt that California is an economic engine of the US (Texas, too) that is not nearly the hell-hole conservative media makes it out to be.
     
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    has Biden fired anyone?
     
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    The tone deafness of the Dem voters is astounding. Everyone knows that California is going straight to the crapper, yet some in here still think it is economically sound.
     
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    Serious question: How many times do you guys really need to be fact checked on Keystone? You can make an argument about refined gas 10 years from now… hell you try to make the argument about 4 years from now but you are trying to argue about inflation and gas prices TODAY. In no way are we going to take you seriously if your best case against Biden is the Keystone pipeline. The project didn’t even start until Trumps final days in office and the most optimistic dates to be completed would be in 2023. Not to mention it was CRUDE oil. Not sure how much you even know about the oil and gas industry but the issue is REFINED oil that can’t meet demand. Not crude.

    So please try again… this time with actual relevant examples.

    If you want to base your thesis on cutting off Russia and your endorsement to pay slightly less at the pump by allowing a dictator to start a world war then you can make that case I guess. You’d be taking a stance that even Switzerland can’t even stomach… the same Switzerland that famously operated as Hitlers money launderer.

    If that’s the side you want to argue on then have at it. At least we know where your priority’s are pretty clearly.
     
  8. SuraGotMadHops

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    You watch too much tv, try thinking critically for once. It'll help you vote smarter next time.

    Oh and your boy Newsom? Ditched the "economic powerhouse" California and is visiting Montana, violating his very own travel ban.

    NOW do you feel stupid?
     
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    LOL. That's the best response you can muster to actual details about what the Keystone can and can't do?
     
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    He also approved leases..... As if the O&G currently doesn't have plenty of private land and public leases to explore and develop.

    Do you not realize oil is a globally traded commodity? You are just showing your ignorance about energy.
     
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    You maybe watching too much Youtube..... the biggest thing currently holding back the O&G industry is lack of workers and supply chain issue.

    Who would have thought having a major oil bust due to poor capital management would affect their ability? [/s]
     
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    U.S. job openings dip to 11.3 million, but labor market still historically strong

     
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    Actually you are showing yours, futures matter, if the Keystone was being developed it affects the market, globally.
     
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    Likewise the O&G companies currently having plenty of land and sea to explore and drill affects futures.

    There are many things affecting the price of oil besides the Keystone pipeline.

    Also the US sending oil from the strategic reserve overseas is immaterial to the overall price. You may as well argue that Trump reversing the export ban caused oil prices to rise….
     
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    After reading this post I feel pretty freaking smart actually. Natty Light and sh$t posting on Clutchfans is not highly recommended.
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-be...n-post-11657145527?mod=hp_opin_pos_2#cxrecs_s

    The Beltway’s Case of Biden Remorse
    The Democrats and media who pushed his agenda now blame the President for failure.
    By The Editorial Board
    Updated July 6, 2022 6:59 pm ET

    For readers who aren’t consumed with politics—and bless you for it—you might want to know that something remarkable is happening in Washington. Democrats and their media allies are having a bout of buyer’s remorse—over President Biden.

    It seems they’re disappointed that the one-time scrapper from Scranton isn’t the chief executive they thought he’d be—and, after 18 months of a united front, they are finally venting their frustration in public. A pair of notable pieces this week in Democratic Party favorites—CNN.com and the Washington Post—relate how the White House is a mess, and the President isn’t the strong and angry leader the times demand.

    “Democrats worry the lack of decisions and authority are deepening their own midterm problems and feeding a sense that the President couldn’t truly handle the extra complications of a run for reelection in 2024,” reports CNN.com—“and along the way, reinforcing narratives that he’s an old man not fit for the moment.”

    The President’s limitations are hardly news, as some of us have been reporting on them for years, if not decades. But why is the media wall of support cracking now?

    The answer lies in the words “midterm problems” and “reelection” in that CNN report. The polling looks increasingly dire for Democrats in November, and these inside-baseball stories about White House dysfunction are the way that the Beltway crowd starts to distance itself from the man they’ll blame if it’s a Republican rout—Mr. Biden.

    It’s almost enough to make you feel sorry for the President. He adopted the agenda of the Democratic left—woke on the culture, socialist on the economy—and the press cheered him on as the next FDR.

    Remember when GOP opposition to the $1.9 trillion spending blowout in March 2021 was going to hurt Republicans in the midterms? Instead it contributed to the inflation that is killing Democrats in the polls.

    Go down the list of progressive policies that Mr. Biden embraced only to see them backfire. Assaults on fossil fuels contributing to $5 a gallon gasoline. School lockdowns and woke instruction that have inspired a parental revolt for school choice. The threat of taxes and regulation even as economic growth slows to a trickle in the last six months. You’d be angry too if you did everything progressives asked, it all turned snake-eyes, and the same progressives and press blamed you for the results.

    You know it’s bad when the press corps start to elevate as potential party saviors Govs. Gavin Newsom of California and J.B. Pritzker of Illinois, two states that taxpayers are fleeing in droves. “As some Democrats grow impatient with Biden, alternative voices emerge,” headlines the Post.

    Sorry, Mr. President. The party needed you to beat Donald Trump, and you made the mistake of adopting the left’s agenda. Now that you’re down in the polls, you’re expendable.

    Appeared in the July 7, 2022, print edition.

     
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    Some fools are so behind in the race they actually think they're leading. Keep it up.
     
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    Opinion: Is Joe Biden the wrong president at the wrong time?


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/07/biden-wrong-president-wrong-time/

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    “Democrats frustrated with Biden” is the new “Dems in disarray.”

    In the last few days, one news outlet after another has published articles on Democratic displeasure with President Biden and his White House. When that kind of dissatisfaction emerges, it can generate its own momentum.

    The discontent is coming not just from the left, but from all parts of the party. The complaints call Biden too passive, too reactive, too slow, too wedded to outdated conceptions of how politics works, and unwilling to take the fight to Republicans. Many critiques are fair, some less so, but all are driven by the reality of a president with low approval ratings and a party headed for a difficult midterm election.

    Much of what ails Biden is beyond his control, and presidents with more political talent than him faced similar struggles. But he also may be uniquely ill-suited to turn things around. Biden was the right candidate to defeat Donald Trump in 2020, but what if he’s the wrong president for the challenges of 2022?

    If we look back over Biden’s career, we see someone with real but finite strengths, who was sometimes the right man at the right moment, and sometimes just the opposite.

    He ran two abysmal presidential campaigns in 1988 and 2008, then Barack Obama picked an older White insider to balance his ticket, a wise choice. Biden turned out to be a very good vice president (not that anyone noticed), and in 2020, despite running another campaign that could generously be described as mediocre, much of the Democratic primary electorate decided that the older, reassuring, avuncular White guy was the best candidate to get rid of Trump.

    That turned out to be a smart decision. And from the time he became the presumptive nominee, Biden did an excellent job of bringing the left into the fold, creating policy working groups with representatives of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and making his own proposals more progressive.

    But today, he seems surprised by the new radicalism of the Republican Party and unable to craft a response to it, nor to the extraordinary aggressiveness of the Supreme Court. Since he is by nature an institutionalist, his first impulse when asked about the filibuster or reforming the court is to resist fundamental change, which to his supporters sounds like naivete and defeatism.

    That’s before you even get to the things over which he has only the tiniest measure of control, including the pandemic, the war in Ukraine, gas prices and inflation.
    more at the link
     
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    so wait a sec . . . if gas prices here are so high because demand exceeds supply . . . why are we . . . ahh, never mind. :cool:
     

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