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Biden is no joke; will vote for him again

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    Biden nominated anti trust lawyer johnathan kanter. He was a bernie favorite and came up with the original argument against Google that many states use in their anti trust suits. This is huge as now lina khan (32 yr ftc chair) at the ftc has another big progressive as head of anti trust at the doj. It's incredible to see biden nominate 2 bernie bros and the most respected anti trust lawyer to lead the doj. He must have had so much pressure from lobbyist and big corporations to put someone pro business but he truly is fighting big corporations.

    https://gizmodo.com/biden-assembles-the-final-member-of-his-big-tech-nightm-1847329931

    Lina khan has already been busy working and delivering for the American people



     
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  3. vlaurelio

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    at least your golden calf stll remembers to put his pants on backwards right?
     
  4. rockbox

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    You post these articles without stating your opinion. What do think Biden should have done?
     
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    That's the fun part
     
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    Thats actually a very useful verbal tick. It sort of acts as like crash and ride for a drummer in a band where it resets the listener for the next cue to hear the change in direction.

    Comedians do the same thing where they keep coming back to a saying that resets the audiences attention for the next joke. Go back and watch Chris Rocks bits. He does the same thing…”All white, Allright”… or something like that.

    Joe Biden isn’t Tony Robbins or anything as a public speaker but he has more skill than people give him credit for.
     
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    The Anatomy of a Screw Up: The Biden Eviction Moratorium Saga

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/anatomy-screw-biden-eviction-moratorium-saga

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    Lessons

    Even though we don’t know yet much about the inside baseball of the moratorium fiasco, some lessons are clear.

    First, good lawyering is vital. If (as seems plausible) an administration lawyer advised Psaki and Sperling and President Biden that the Supreme Court had already ruled on the validity of the eviction moratorium, that lawyer made a mistake. The public relations fiasco followed directly from this misinterpretation.

    Second, proper coordination among senior legal advisors is vital. We don’t yet know about how the lawyers in the White House, the Justice Department and the CDC coordinated their legal arguments and positions, but it did not work well.

    Third, and maybe the most important lesson: Sound legal analysis needs to be filtered through public messaging. Or perhaps better, public messaging needs to be constrained by sound legal analysis. Psaki and Sperling made legally erroneous claims about a new CDC eviction moratorium. The president, too, said erroneous and self-defeating things about the legality of the expiring and new CDC moratorium. These public messaging blunders gave rise to the entirely understandable though misleading inference that the administration was acting lawlessly.

    Fourth, legal analysis should to the extent possible be detached from political aims. It is hard to know, but the administration might have used an opportunistic legal argument (that its hands were tied by the June 29 Supreme Court order) to pressure Congress to enact a new moratorium. Pelosi accurately called “bullshit,” and the administration backtracked in a way that seemed lawless.

    Fifth, the Supreme Court wields enormous power through its procedurally impoverished shadow docket rulings. All the Court did was to allow the conviction moratorium ban to proceed until its expiration date. But five justices—Justice Kavanaugh in a paragraph for him only, and four more simply through saying that they would vote to vacate a stay—signalled with various degrees of certainty that they would invalidate the CDC eviction moratorium if they reached the merits (and perhaps they sent a dimmer signal about the legality of a narrowed eviction moratorium). These justices sent these signals without anything approaching full deliberation about the legality of the CDC moratorium.

    Yet despite the diminished procedural context, and without any explanation from the Court, many in the administration and in the commentariat treated these signals as a conclusive prediction about how the Supreme Court viewed the legality of the eviction moratorium. And largely due to the Biden administration’s mismanaged messaging, the public (including many commentators sympathetic to the administration) viewed the administration as lawless because it declined to bow to this predicted Supreme Court ruling. It’s all an impressive new twist on Holmes’ adage that “[t]he prophecies of what the courts will do in fact, and nothing more pretentious, are what I mean by the law.” And it is a master lesson about how the Court can achieve important substantive rulings on its shadow docket without the normal requirements of procedural rigor and reasoned decisionmaking.
    more at the link

     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    commentary on the Lawfare piece:

    https://reason.com/volokh/2021/08/0...-screw-up-the-biden-eviction-moratorium-saga/
     
  9. Os Trigonum

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    "This Is No Way to Rule a Country":

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/opinion/biden-pelosi-congress-eviction-jan-6.html

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    A curious constitutional drama unfolded in the nation’s capital last week. Having failed to pass a moratorium on evictions, members of Congress took to the steps of the U.S. Capitol to demand that President Biden impose one.

    For his part, Mr. Biden strode into the White House briefing room and suggested that the prerogative to make policy on the issue lay with Congress.

    Soon enough, though, Mr. Biden relented, and Democrats celebrated. As policy, it was a progressive victory. Constitutionally, it was both troubling and bizarre.

    The issue was not simply whether the moratorium was constitutional, though the federal courts have questioned the statutory authority the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention claimed. The underlying constitutional derangement pertained to the way members of Congress and the president were eager to endorse each other’s authority without exercising their own.

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    Democrats are not the only ones refusing to defend legislative authority. Republicans denigrating the House investigation into the insurrection of Jan. 6 — a physical assault on one branch of government incited by another — are unwilling even to defend the institution bodily.

    The acid test of separation of powers is whether members of Congress are willing to assert their authority against a president of their own party. Democrats failed that on evictions, just as Republicans did by handing off authority to Donald Trump. Given this bipartisan consensus for presidential authority, it may be time to acknowledge reality: The concept of the separation of powers — which depends on members of Congress unifying to protect legislative power — has collapsed in the United States. We have become a de facto parliamentary system in which competing parties battle for executive power. The problem is that we have acquired all the vices of such a system but none of its virtues.
     
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    Kabul 2021 or 2022 looking like Saigon 1975 is gonna be a bad look for his administration. I think pulling out is/was the right thing to do and the Taliban reasserting control quickly doesn't effect my opinion at all but it might for some.
     
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    Biden shouldnt do whats good for the country simply because it might be a bad look? Thats what is exactly wrong in this nation for decades. We have never fought back against the grain and have let corporate consolidation and monopolies to grow too big. Being President is about making tough decision and not everyone is going to agree with you but having the balls to make those decision is what a leader SHOULD DO. Doing the popular things isnt what a president should be doing. Removing troops from Afghanistan was the only right decision here.

    We have spent literally trillions of dollars on equipping and training the afghan army and they throw their hands up and quit within weeks. What the hell is he suppose to do? Funnel another half a trillion and teach more useless incompetent afghanis how to fight? If the citizens dont have the will to fight then why the hell should we be doing their fighting? Like WTF is the end game here?
     
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    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/08/storm-clouds-for-biden.php

    Storm Clouds For Biden
    by John Hinderaker

    It is early yet, but as of today it looks like the top issues in next year’s Congressional elections will be the cost of living, crime and critical race theory. If that turns out to be true, Democrats are in serious trouble.

    For the first time in quite a few years, prices for staple items are rising rapidly, and with the federal government borrowing and spending at a record pace that trend can only accelerate. People aren’t happy about it: this Fox News poll finds that 70 percent of respondents consider grocery and gasoline prices to be a hardship for their families, with 29 percent considering them a serious hardship. Further, 79% say “the federal government’s economic policies” are responsible for rising prices, with 49 percent considering them “very responsible.” To be fair, respondents also blame the coronavirus–not sure how that works–and “the regular ups and downs of the economy.” But as prices continue to rise over the next year, more and more fingers will be pointed at Joe Biden and the Democrats.

    Similarly, consumer confidence plunged this month.

    U.S. consumer sentiment fell sharply in early August, with the University of Michigan confidence survey plumbing depths not seen in a decade as Americans expressed worry about personal finances, unemployment, and inflation.

    The survey, released on Aug. 13, showed that the consumer sentiment index plunged from July’s reading of 81.2 down to 70.2, hitting a level not seen since 2011. The 13 percent slide was one the sharpest in percentage terms in the past 50 years, exceeded only by an 18.1-percent drop in 2008 and a 19.4-percent fall in April 2020, when the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus pandemic threw the economy into a tailspin.

    Looking on the bright side, maybe the Democrats can run on the Biden administration’s foreign policy successes.​
     
  15. Andre0087

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    Are you still moderate?
     
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    I thought MSNBC was liberal news?? Jake Sherman trolling here.

    Voters aren’t going to really seriously think that Biden had anything to do with Covid ravaging India enough to cause a variant like Delta. They also sure as hell won’t judge him on idiots refusing to get vaccinated because they think Bill Gates is putting a microchip in them.

    Those who hate Democrats who will never vote for a Democrat will never vote for a Democrat. The Media still has no idea how to cover politics in America. 2022 will be a turnout election just like every other one. Turn out progressives and convince those on the margins that Repugs really want to watch the world burn which …. Kind of is the truth nowadays.

    Which is why the 3.5 tril reconciliation bill is of utmost importance. Keeping “moderates” will have more to do with how many Marjorie Traitor Green’s and Child Sex Trafficker like Matt Geatz Republicans feel like they want to elevate.
     
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    Only 7 months into the presidency and the ship is sinking already? The funny part is Biden just does not remember anything that happened for the past 7 months.
     
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    Ttump reinstated yet?
     
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    "1 big thing: Biden's stain"

    https://www.axios.com/newsletters/a...10.html?chunk=0&utm_campaign=axios_app#story0

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    Rarely has an American president's predictions been so wrong, so fast, so convincingly as President Biden on Afghanistan.
    • Usually military operations and diplomacy are long; the outcomes, foggy. Not here.
    Just five weeks ago, President Biden assured Americans: "[T]he likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely."
    • In April, Biden said: "We will not conduct a hasty rush to the exit. We'll do it responsibly, deliberately, and safely."
    This morning, the Taliban is entering the Afghanistan capital, Kabul, "from all sides," a senior Afghan official told Reuters. Jalalabad, the last major city besides the capital not held by the Taliban, fell earlier today.
    • Afghan forces today surrendered Bagram Air Base, the Grand Central of America's longest war, to the Taliban.
    CNN showed video of choppers over Kabul — believed to be ferrying U.S. diplomats to the airport.
    • The U.S. is completely pulling out of the embassy over the next 72 hours, and Taliban representatives are at the Kabul presidential palace, CNN reports.
    • The top of the Sunday New York Times: "Free Fall in Afghanistan."
    The big picture: It's a stunning failure for the West, and embarrassment for Biden. And it's a traumatic turn for U.S. veterans who sacrificed in Afghanistan over the past 20 years, the 20,000+ wounded in action, and survivors of the more than 2,300 U.S. military personnel who were killed.
    • Ryan Crocker, a U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan under President Obama, said last weekend on ABC's "This Week": "I think it is already an indelible stain on his presidency."
     
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    Never before has a moderate Democrat contributed so much to support his party.
     

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