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Biden is no joke, will vote for him again [Official Commemoration Thread]

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Dec 2, 2024.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    The Biden presidency was one man’s dream running into reality
    Biden’s confidence in his ability to guide America through a troubled era was part of the problem.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/08/biden-legacy-lifelong-ambition-reality/

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    I worried such overconfidence and self-regard were a recipe for disaster.

    They were. Two months after the infrastructure agreement, Biden, who also was supremely assured of his foreign policy acumen, mismanaged the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan. Manchin and Senate Republicans tanked the social policy bill, leaving Biden’s agenda languishing for months before the much more modest Inflation Reduction Act passed. His poll numbers collapsed, and the Democratic candidates who won in the midterms did so by distancing themselves from the president.

    But because Democrats did better in the midterms than the incumbent’s party typically does, Biden and his aides interpreted the 2022 elections as another sign that Biden was a historic president. He opted to run for reelection, despite polls showing the majority of voters felt he was too old. While Americans kept expressing deep frustration with the state of the economy, Biden bragged about the virtues of “Bidenomics” in his speeches around the country.

    Even after a dreadful performance in a presidential debate against Trump, Biden continued to insist he was an indispensable president and world leader, bowing out only after top leaders in the party withdrew their support, publicly and privately.

    I’m usually resistant to the adage “People don’t change.” Sometimes they do. But if you had told me in 2006, when I was covering Capitol Hill as a young reporter, that Biden would become president and then insist he was doing great even as his legislative agenda stalled and he trailed in every poll, I would have been surprised only by the becoming president part. These past four years were quintessential Biden. As in his Senate days, Biden shifted between being more moderate and more progressive, more and less conciliatory with Republicans. He gave some great speeches as well as some duds; he made some brilliant decisionsand some catastrophic ones.

    What didn’t change was that Biden always saw himself as a man called to be in the center of the action, shaping history. Biden’s presidency was many things: a continuation of America’s deep partisan polarization; a shift away from neoliberal economic policies; an extremely strong economic recovery from the covid-19 pandemic; and, most important, only a brief interregnum between two terms of Donald Trump. But at its core, Joe Biden’s administration was about Joe Biden — the rise and fall of a man whose one central belief seemed to be that he deserved to be president.
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    Biden’s outgoing acting ICE director admits prez ‘absolutely’ should have tackled border crisis sooner

    https://nypost.com/2025/01/09/us-ne...ely-should-have-tackled-border-crisis-sooner/

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    President Biden should have begun cracking down on illegal border crossings much earlier in his administration, the acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has acknowledged.

    Patrick “P.J.” Lechleitner told NBC News in an interview published Thursday that “career people” in the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) “would have liked” Biden to move quicker against the migrant crisis that dogged his four years in office.

    On June 4, with the 82-year-old Biden in the midst of an uphill re-election fight, he issued an executive order shutting down the southern frontier if illegal crossings topped 2,500 per day for seven consecutive days.

    “Quite frankly, I don’t know if anybody in DHS wouldn’t have wanted that earlier,” said Lechleitner, who has been the acting head of ICE since July 2023.

    Biden kicked off his presidency in January 2021 by rolling back a raft of hardline Trump-era immigration policies, which ushered in an explosion of migration from Central and South America across the US-Mexico border.

    In November 2024, five months after Biden issued the order, the number of migrant encounters by US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at the southwest border plunged below 100,000 in a month for the first time in the 46th president’s tenure.
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    The stale broccoli still managed to make it all about himself on that wildfires conference presser in California. Nobody gives 2 shiiit about your great grandchild where you couldn’t even get the sex of the baby right. Go away and disappear already!
     
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    I doubted the appropriateness of referring to January 6th as an attempted "coup". The term makes even less sense here.

    Firstly, he didn't say he "would" beat Trump. He said he "could" beat Trump. Crucial difference. Secondly, there was no use of violence that coerced him into relinquishing the nomination.
     
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    Biden ends his administration with near Trump-level approval ratings
    The challenge for President Joe Biden from nearly the outset was skepticism among independents.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/13/biden-low-job-approval/

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    As the recent death of Carter reminds us, presidential legacies are not set in stone. Biden’s presidency may be viewed very differently in the future than it is now — though it’s certainly not the case that Biden will have decades in which to offer the public a different lens into his tenure the way that Carter did.

    But there’s another example of political revitalization that occurred over a shorter period of time and more recently, one that Biden will probably not be able to emulate.

    That, of course, is Trump’s.
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    Biden fell dramatically short on defense, immigration and debt — worse than the last 3 presidents before him: poll

    https://nypost.com/2025/01/14/us-ne...and-debt-than-the-last-three-presidents-poll/

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    A Gallup poll conducted last month found Americans ranked Biden, 82, far beneath Presidents Donald Trump, Barack Obama and George W. Bush on critical foreign and domestic policy markers — despite the lame-duck president frequently deploying superlatives to describe his administration.
    note "82" is President Biden's age, not his ranking ;)

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    Legacies do ebb and flow with time. Biden can't use post-presidential work to burnish his image. But I do think his infrastructure bills will lift his reputation in a decade or two -- either because we have a lot of new infrastructure that he enabled, or because the infrastructure is completely falling apart after the Republicans undo his work. Bookmark this page and lets check back in 2035.
     
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    The Infrastructure bill is an interesting test case moving forward. What we know is that Republicans and Trump will try to take credit for anything good it creates. That's a given. Will they get that credit in the history books or will Biden.... we will see.

    There's a huge mistake he did make though of putting these projects in red states. Big miscalculation that Trump voters are actually paying attention or care to vote in their self interest as much as they are just voting based on culture wars/societal change.

    Right now a trillion dollar span of desalination plants along the West Coast sounds like it would have been the better investment.
     
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    don't forget kids

     
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    big audience . . . 4000 viewers. it's like the Toyota Center lower bowl
     
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    He went out on top negotiating the cease fire in Isreal.
     
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    he just wished the incoming literally Hitler administration the best of luck
     
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    lol "Social media has given up on fact-checking."
     
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    "Family is everything." thinly-disguised reference to the Hunter Biden gravy train
     
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    well he hit 7200 viewers. out of 2+ million followers, so I guess that's good.
     
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