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Bev and Dmo = much different series

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, May 11, 2015.

  1. cardpire

    cardpire Member

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    My point exactly. 2 of those players scored more than their season averages, 1 is just under, and the other is Damian Lillard, and we know what he did to Bev in the postseason last year.

    So yeah, like i said...no impact. Thanks for making my point for me!
     
  2. OddsOn

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    While there may be some truth to this on defensive rotations and the ability to slide DMo to the corner to hit the three, you really cannot hang your hat on the overall poor team play (Howard excluded) based on those two guys being out.

    Bottom line is its like a chain reaction....
    1. Harden drives to the lane, gets fouled skillfully by Clippers, and does not get the call from the refs.
    2. He continues to drive the lane but kicks it out to the open shooters on the perimeter, but nobody can knock down the open three.
    3. Over the course of the game Hardin begins to check out of the game due to the lack of foul calls while driving to the basket and lack of his team mates to hit open jump shots.
    4. Overall our transition defense has been woeful this whole series and when the Clippers go on those runs that have occurred they just break out team spirit and you can see the Rockets players start to quit hustling.
    5. Our rotational defense on half court sets is a incredibly bad and this is the area where perhaps Bev and DMo missing coming home to roost. TJones is useless on defense and quite frankly I really question his bball IQ and J-smoove has completely disappeared in this series, our geriatric point guards just cannot keep up with the younger slashing guards of LAC on PnR defense and when D12 slides over to help there is absolutely no weak side help.
     
  3. el_locoteee

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    It's funny when the news of DMo not playing the rest of the season clutchfans was devastated, making claim that we are going how are we going to lose the first round etc.

    Now is like, DMo who?

    Imagine the Clippers with Rivers and Reddick. They will be so easy to guard. They basically have been responsible for at least 2 of 3 wins.
     
  4. mfastx

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    It seems unlikely that this series would have a different outcome if we had Bev and DMo. We haven't even seen how DMo plays in the playoffs. They are just completely demolishing us, our problems run much deeper than missing our starting PG and (maybe) our starting PF.

    Hopefully we can remain healthy next season, but some players need to go too.
     
  5. dreamshakin

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    We gotta keep these 2 for our future plans.
     
  6. Liberon

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    Dmo would have been huge and Bev competes no matter how bad it gets. I notice neither are at the sidelines these past 2 games.
     
  7. okierock

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    Bev would help if for no other reason than we would have a guy (like Barnes) to piss off the other team. He would also be competing up twenty or down twenty either way.

    We need that.

    Most championship teams have a crazy dude, Bev is ours.

    Dmo would help because of the significantly different look he gives us and his height would help if Dwight is out.

    Also, McHale needs to stop running Jones and Smith together. He needs Howard or Capella in there at all times.
     
  8. MONON

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    Really!?! In our 2 regular season wins over the Clippers, we had no Howard, Dmo for both & Bev for one. Dmo's 37% from 3 & D opens up the middle. Bev makes the opposing guards offensive job a lot harder.
     
  9. BONIERO1576

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    Moreover, D-Mo has been our most reliable player in the post. Howard can score off the pick and roll but D-mo was the only player that could consistently get his own shot off. Beverly's impact is obvious he is our second best perimeter defender and he brings an energy to the team that has really been missed in this series.

    This series has been gut wrenching to watch but this organization has a lot to build on next year. Considering everyone thought we were dead in the water after striking out with Bosh and losing Parsons we still took a step forward. This final step, going from very good to contender, is the hardest.
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    1. Which Beverley would we be getting, though? Even before going down with the wrist injury, Beverley has been pretty ineffective compared to last season. The Rockets often had to switch Trevor Ariza to the opposing PG when Beverley was unable to do anything.

    Maybe there is a "Playoff Beverley" out there, but after the legends of "Playoff Rondo" I tend to distrust these things.

    2. As for DMo. He is about as good as Jones and Smith. Some different strengths and weaknesses, but he isn't gonna make a 30-point difference to the series. He is a bit taller, but doesn't rebound well and tends to get pushed around in general. Not sure he'd fare all that well vs. Griffin/Jordan.

    Yeah, more available bodies and talent would have helped. Still, it takes a lot to really change the nature of this particular one-sided series.
     
  11. towW

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    I'm not making excuses for anyone. I know they are playing like crap but you can't tell me Dmo wouldn't have made any difference.
    I think you are afraid nothing will change if we stick with what we got. I'm just saying I like what I see out of Dmo. I too hate the way we are playing and I hope changes come soon.
     
  12. towW

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    Were we watching the same thing here guys?

    Dmo was money in the paint.
     
  13. Easy

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    Beveley's defense is overrated, at least in this season. And he couldn't have guarded both Paul/Rivers and Reddict/Crawford.

    DMo might actually have helped more. Jones and Smith are playing so poorly. But he's not going to suddenly make our team significantly better.

    That said, Bev and DMo (and Brewer) are the only rotation players we have that would not quit under adversity. You can tell the team just gives up after they are behind for more than 10 points.
     
  14. Rox4life1986

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    This. Stop making excuses....... we're getting our ass whooped. Plain and simple. We got lucky playing a Mavs team that was imploding
     
  15. Rox4life1986

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    I'm sure Doc, Blake, and Deandre are thanking their lucky stars that D-Mo didn't play..... what a series changer that would of made *eye roll*
     
  16. jordnnnn

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    I agree. They would have helped quite a bit and maybe could have made this interesting. That said as good as LA is playing I don't think it would have been enough.

    Dmo drawing a big out of the paint has really been missed.

    Bev, however you want to rate his defense, is better than either guy playing in his spot and despite the percentages Bev just seems more confident in his 3 point shooting. His intensity is also missed out there.
     
  17. aurocketfan

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    They may help a bit but they are still role players.

    The problem is Harden & Howard < cp3 & Blake
    Heck you could argue Harden & Howard < Blake
     
  18. hakeemthagreat

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    No impact? Lol. Those shooting percentages are exactly what you want. I'm not sure what type of ridiculous standards you hold Bev too, but that's great defense. His impact was HUGE defensively
     
  19. KlutchQT

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    Both of them would have helped. I'm not sure the series record would be any different than it is right now b/c the Clips are just an awful matchup for us and have been for some time now -- but they both would have helped.
     
  20. KlutchQT

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    No impact.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/VantageSports">@VantageSports</a>, Beverley was the defender on 18 FGA by CP3 this year. Paul made just two of those shots.</p>&mdash; Kelly Scaletta (@KellyScaletta) <a href="https://twitter.com/KellyScaletta/status/594886857302749184">May 3, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     

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