Best shooting guards not named Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant

Absolutely no question at all about that. The only people that would argue that point are people that did not watch Clyde play.

 

My top 5

1) Jordan
2) Kobe
3) Drexler
4) Wade
5) Iverson

I grew up in the Jordan era so I never got to see Jerry West play so I didn't put him in my list. I think Drexler is a solid #3 for me but I'm partial to him because he's my favorite player all time. There really wasn't anything that Drexler couldn't do. I just wish he had some more mental toughness and selfishness to his game. He lacked that killer instinct that Jordan and Kobe had/have. With that said the Drexler from the mid-late 80's to the early 90's was an absolute beast that always led the Blazers to one of the top records in the league and he carried his team to the finals twice during that span. I'd take Drexler's best over Wade's anyday.

 

Drexler averaged 18.5 pts 5 rebounds and 5.5 assists in his 17th season playing with 2 other hall of famers. Drexler was a stud. He also never warmed up or stretched.

 

To me, for someone to make one of these "best of" lists, they've got to have played the whole game. Reggie did one thing, shoot, as well as anyone who ever played. But nobody's calling Dennis Rodman the best PF of all time because he could rebound.

Give me a guy like Drexler who could rebound, pass, score, draw fouls, defend, post up, shoot 3s, run the break, etc. Wade was in that category back in the day. Dumars played both ends of the floor and won a Finals MVP. Reggie, for all the clutch-ness, took his team to 1 NBA Finals and lost, despite playing with an All-Star center, a very good tandem of PFs, and the #3 all-time assist guy.

 

I don't disagree completely with your position in general, but I do think Rodman is definitely in the top ten PFs of all time, despite his offensive shortcomings.

 

Style doesnt get you on this list. He was eletrifying though, but just became a sportscenter highligh, and oh btw they lost the game

 

Drexler is definitely top 3 and I'm not so sure I wouldn't put him at number 2. If you're building a team and don't have a Zenmaster as coach, it would be easier to build a winner with Clyde. Plus, Clyde was stronger than Kobe and bests him in most major categories (RBs, Steals, Blocks, Assists, FG%). Likewise, West has more assists and RBs than Kobe as well as a higher scoring average.

Looking at the impacts on their different eras, I think a really good argument could be made for putting West ahead of Kobe. Regardless, the differences between these three are minuscule and any pick of one over the others is likely to be as much about personal tastes as basketball.

Rounding out the Top Ten, whoever said Mitch Richmond knows basketball. There's also Earl Monroe, Dumars, Miller, Wade, Gervin, and Dumars.

(I put Oscar and Iverson as PGs and everyone else as forwards... Bernard King was in no way a SG.)

Anyway, if I had to, I would rank them this way:

MJ
Drexler
Kobe
West
Gervin
Wade
Richmond
Miller
Monroe
Dumars

 

Really? I don't even think he is Top 14. I could see an argument for 15, but only if Nate Thurmond is consigned to the center position. If you think he's in the Top Ten, which 5 are you bumping? And if he is definitely in the Top Ten does that make him 4th or 6th or what?

Tim Duncan
Karl Malone
Charles Barkley
Kevin McHale
Elvin Hayes
Kevin Garnett
Bob Pettit
Dave Debusschere
Dirk Nowitzki
Jerry Lucas
Connie Hawkins
Shawn Kemp
Dolph Schayes
Chris Webber

Hell, I'd rather have Thorpe or Willis or Chambers or Love on my team than Rodman.

 

I think many people put AI as a point guard because of his size.

I say it's

MJ
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Kobe
West
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AI
-
Drexler
Dumars
Wade

 

And the fact that he was the primary ball handler.

 

AI's one of those players that doesn't have a traditional position. I'm on the fence as to whether he's a point guard or shooting guard.

 

AI always played with a traditional PG who got more assists than he did. So, AI was the SG. Besides, just because you are the primary ball-handler does not mean you aren't a SG ... see Harden and Wade (before Lebron). We could say Kobe and MJ were primary ball-handlers, too.

 

How about this guy???

Spoiler

 

I hate when people talk about tmacs heart. Yes, he could have been more motivated in terms of working on his skill. He also, gave up near the end of his rockets tenure.

But he had heart. Dude took injections during playoffs for years when yao was down to try to keep histeam going.

end rant.

 

You guys really think Reggie Miller is better than Dwyane Wade? Is Reggie Miller even better than Ray Allen? We all know Allen as a spot up shooter now, but when he was younger he scored well over 20ppg and was actually pretty athletic.

Dwyane Wade is a great player. Don't let the fact he formed a gay Big 3 turn that away.

 

Mitch Richmond was an effin' STUD SG!

Great choice.

 

Drexler & Mitch Richmond are both underrated.

 

I agree with this

 

If anyone trys to sit here and say AI was a pg, you're crazy.