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Best desktop PC for around $1K

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Surfguy, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. Surfguy

    Surfguy Member

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    I exchanged for another one and it works fine so far. This computer was on sale and had a rebate. Doing the math on the price of the components, it's a good deal and I don't think I could build it for the price I paid for these exact specs. I caught the last day of the $200 off sale yesterday (it went back up to $1399 today) and the mfr. rebate is another $100.

    This thing is incredible. So fast. Booting to windows is awesomely fast. The sound is top notch running on my Klipsch 2.1 . What are some of the best games to tax the video card with? Guess I'll have to look around.
     
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    Compatibility is more than if this will work or not. There are a lot of issues, such as sli vs crossfire, if I want to stream 4k from my compure from Netflix will I be able to with this rig, what about HDCP (do I need it, what is it?), how big of a ps do I need, do I have the right ps connections.

    Like I said, building a rig isn't easy.
     
  3. RedRedemption

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    Like I said, yes you have to do baseline level research.

    SLI vs Crossfire is an abstraction of choosing an NVIDIA vs AMD GPU and determining if your mobo supports full power/length dual PCI-x16 slots.

    Determining if your CPU/GPU can stream 4K is baseline level research.

    HDCP is completely irrelevent in 2017 lmfao. If you are using VGA or component cables in this day and age then you are hopelessly outdated, if your GPU or Display is not HDCP-capable, then again you are hopelessly outdated.

    You can estimate how much wattage you need from a PSU by estimating peak load using a web app. All PSUs come with the necessary 24-pin, 6-pin, 8-pin, SATA pins, etc.
     
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    What were the final specs
     
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    The biggest problem with going with a premade system is that they skimp on many parts such as the power supply, the memory (probably a bad off brand), the ssd will be cheap. The only "brand" name you will get is intel processor, windows 10 and video card. I would assume the rest of the rig will be filled with offbrand el cheapo parts. The motherboard is also probably cheap.

    On upgrade I would do if I were you would be to buy a $100 power supply. Go to best buy. That will make a great improvement to your system.
     
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    The SSD is Intel. The motherboard is MSI Z270 SLI PLUS. I agree with you on the memory and power supply but they are good enough. Just going conservative:

    SSD - $200
    CPU (I7-7700K) - $335
    MSI Z270 SLI PLUS MOBO - $135
    MSI GTX1070 8GB GPU - $400
    16 GB DDR4 2400 - $110
     
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    what ssi brand did you get? and the cpu being a k version is great, THat is a good mobo though so that's very encouraging.
     
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    I think you mean ssd. It's intel 512GB M.2 PCIe 80mm SSD.

    During my research, someone was saying the BIOS they put on the pre-built didn't have the overclocking options that would come with the retail motherboard. And, they said something about being unable to get those features with a BIOS update. I haven't looked into it so I'm not sure if that is true...but a few people were commenting on it on slick deals.

    I'm surmising that, because they built this machine with cheaper memory and tested it under a specific configuration that excluded overclocking, they didn't want people overclocking this setup as is. That, or they are going to release a BIOS update to address overclocking. I don't overclock so I don't care. I know the CPU can be turbo boosted to 4.5 GHz but I don't think the means is currently on this machine to push it to 5.0 GHz (in the BIOS like I said). Also, people were saying they couldn't use the BIOS that ships with the retail board that does include overclocking features. I'm not sure I would push the CPU to 5.0 GHz with a stock cooler (I think it is but I haven't verified). LOL. I don't know how suitable the memory in this thing is for overclocking but probably not very.

    It's a budget gaming PC with some bells and some whistles. The case doesn't have a window and it doesn't light up as is (although it does support RGB lighting on the mobo). Well, it has some cool red LED lines on the front where they bays are. And, the mobo has white lights lit up I can see from the top. The top has a mesh opening for air flow. I could trick it all out and get a new case. I just don't care about any of that. My previous PC lit up blue. Big whoop. Although, some of the configurations I've seen with varying colors in the higher end gaming PCs is quite cool. Micro Center had a very cool one on display that had a parts list label on it. They would build it for you I guess for $2500 with the latest and greatest. And, it was the coolest looking gaming PC window I've ever seen. It was like x-mas in there. I wanted to live there.
     
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    Is your CPU 4.2 GHz, Surfguy, or higher? just curious. It looks like a nice system. I'm torn between building my own, or finding a pre-built rig that fits my needs. I'd like to keep it around $1500 bucks, since we're doing some home remodeling (and just replaced the ac/heating and duct work), and still have a kid in his last year of college. I also want to equip it with a GTX 1080 Ti, probably an MSI. Those cards are expensive, as I'm sure you found out. I don't think my tentative budget will cut it. Maybe if I build it myself I can come close to $1500. Not sure.
     
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    I am not sure why they would install a I7-7700K, the K means it is overclockable, if they didn't want you to do it. However, with a prebuilt system I can understand that they would limit it in the bios because the warranty.

    Overclocking, in my opinion, is overrated, though you did PAY for the ability to do it, with your processor. So, if you don't overclock it you kinda wasted money.
     
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    A lot of the cost savings of building your own also come from salvaging parts from previous builds (case, OS, peripherals, monitor, etc). There are times where a prebuilt will be the better choice money/value wise.
     
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    But what about buying an AGP graphics card and then installing it magically in the PCI-E slot?? Or buying the wrong format of memory, not just the ECC debacle.. But actually buying DDR2 memory for a DDR4 system...

    I'm not serious but FFS, what... Always has a response and it's easier to just give up than respond. HDCP now??? ECC in a home system... in 2017???!! gtfo, haha. I hope what is trolling, if not, then you know how his experience went :)
     
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    What is not trolling, he is just an idiot.

    I can't recommend ignoring him enough, especially when it comes to basketball and computers.
     
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    And he proves it by example, as you can see.
     
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    You misunderstood. You haven't ignored a single post, as you recommend.

    But for the record, this guy's entire puffed up status is that he showed me that the processor I bought was incompatible with streaming in 4k.
    Lol, congratulations to you.

    Not only that, but he still can't understand the concept of why a non gamer would want a 4k monitor.
     
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    An idiot.
     
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    Do you think 'what' knows you can have BOTH a SSD and a HDD
     
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    To OP, if you wanted to save a little more money you could downgrade the CPU to a 'Ryzen 5-1600'.

    Edit: Nvm saw that OP had bought a prebuilt one.
     

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