Agreed he's always been a good player, the only issue with him throughout his career has been injuries; seems like he's been injured every season he's played in the NBA.
Yao. If he ever gets the opportunity to play with a legit capable power forward I think/hope we will all get the opportunity to see how much he really can do.
Yep. it comes down to his skinny frame. his skinny frame is not built for banging in the low block. his game allways revolved around his freakish atheletic ability. Sadly once the injuries set in, he gradually become slower.
A whole man, a quarter of the season errr half man, half toothpick errr half man, half a double team You get the picture. He'd make a good PF on the Rox.
I would take Yao over Camby anyday. Camby gets his points from tip-ins and alley-oops (hustle points), he's not a go to guy that you run an offense around. My bad but I gotta defend my boy Zo. "the old man" is leading the league in Field Goal percentage (58%) and blocked shots (almost 4 per game) and is the anchor of the defense.
Based on this season, I'd call it about even. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. They're both good, but not great players that are 2nd options at best. In Camby's case, he's probably 3rd option at best. The biggest thing Yao has going against him is that Camby is the type of big man that is better suited to today's NBA game. A large majority of the teams in the NBA are guard oriented teams that play an uptempo game. Camby fits that style of play better than Yao does. The whole "Yao gets double teamed" thing is a bit overrated though. Yao has been getting double and triple teamed since his rookie year, and yet our offense has always looked horrible when we run it through him. It looks ugly, disjointed, and forced. And this is not just this season, with these players. This all 4 seasons he's been in the league. When the time comes where Yao's double teams actually pay off on a consistent basis, I'll consider him the clear cut better player. Until then, I'm going to going to pretty much disregard it as an "advantage".
I agree with you that we haven't seen significant advantage taken by other players from Yao's double team. Maybe TMac enjoyed that, from his quote the other day. But actually I saw Head also benefited a lot from Yao's screen. That makes me think, maybe, just maybe all our attempts to bring in shooters, young quick PF etc are all in the wrong direction. We should have just committed to a good (not great) PG for let's say 8, 9 million. Maybe, just maybe PG was indeed the biggest problem. Because all the players we brought in, we never really addressed the PG issue. When I saw Parker driving and passing, the Spurs killed Heat last night, it pains me even more. I always believe that if I buy a nice pair of shoes, it's nice everyday and last long. But if I get 4 pairs of shoes for the same price, even if I change them everyday, none of them are good.
Marcus Camby cannot be compared to Yao Ming if anyone has ever watched the Nuggets versus the Rockets play. Its silly to state that Mourning or Diaw defeated Yao. If anyone was watching the Phoenix game, Diaw played behind Yao, while Shawn Marion played in front of him. With the termination of the illegal defense rules, they can crowd big men in the lane to negate them. Without any true playmaker on the outside when T-Mac was out, Yao was doubled before he got the ball and triple teamed once he got it with usually a guard circling around to slap it loose if he lowered the ball. Camby is playing great, but he is a junk player. He does not control the offense or defense and the tempo of the game. He cannot recieve the ball in the post and do anything with it, but instead is the recipient of numerous put-backs from the Carmelo launches. Yao's sheer size fills up the lane, but Camby's long and lean body doesn't harbor much fear, so there is much more attacking him allowing more blocks. He is a better rebounder though and has springboard legs for blocks and offensive rebounds that I wish Yao had, but never will. Yao is (esp. when t-mac is out) the focus of a team's defense, while Camby is a clean up man with great stats. You want to know the value? Pick of the phone to Kiki Vadeghwe and see if he wouldn't trade Camby and Carmello for Yao.
I agree a lot more with Boris Diaw against morning while quiet in the 4th quarter he had 24pts and 14rebs not too shabby. The problem I have with Yao is with guys like Boris he needs Mc Grady to be effective what i need by this is when Boris was fronting what the passer neeeds to do is go baseline with a scorers mentality and actually finish, when that works it either stops the fronting or divides the fronting mans attention. When the passer runs into more defense JHowrd should be open at the elbow or have Stro slash to the basket because it will be highly likely that his man will be helping. The idea will work with anyone but if the guy who is trying to get Yao the ball is not an effective scorer everyone else can stay home on their man.
id much rather have camby than yao. other than the fact that camby is VERY injury prone, and its not always guaranteed he will be out there every game, id pick him over yao in a second. he plays with intensity like he wants that ball, like that ball is HIS, thats what yao needs to do. write his name on the ball and get mad if the other team touches it. "MY BALL... HAAADOOKEN!" -Yao
I bet you if Duncan was double triple teamed like Yao was in those games, Parker and Ginoblli would made them pay. It's all all about peremiters if team focus so much on post. Yao's presence killed Celtics the other day. Tmac had a field day driving to the hole.
all I know is that Yao averages more than 45 games a year, a statistic that was curriously forgoten by all those who think Camby is better (I know it's not really 45, but it's not really all that high either.......how many games as Yao missed? 10-15 in his carrer right? Camby averages that a season. I want a guy consistantly on the flor, just me)
we are talking about right now. right now camby is clearly the better center and having the best year of his career. he is beating yao in every category statwise and i would love to see the guy be able to stay healthy just for one year. that being said it is very early and i don't think bambi can stay healthy.
