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Best Buy Ad's Mention Of Muslim Holiday Irks Some Customers

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Nice Rollin, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. PointForward

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    You poor ignorant soul

    The dutch didn't just "put a picture of muhammad" (which is bad all on its own since depiction is prohibited in islam), they published a depiction of him with a bomb embedded in his turban over his head, then with a fat knife trying to slaughter something (iirc a woman). pretty ****ing racist and offensive won't you say? It's like if white people ran a caricature of a tattoo-laced black guy receiving food stamps and welfare checks, smoking chronic, and eating chicken and watermelon all while screwing a prostitute. that would cause quite a stir, wouldn't it good sir?

    but back to the subject at hand, this was clearly an attempt to attract some customers and it's funny how some Christians always scream foul at the slightest things. I personally find this whole "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas" deal quite ridiculous. I mean, it's christmas, you're allowed to call it christmas! I'm not christian and yet I say "merry christmas" to everyone around me when that time of the year is here. It's an awesome holiday, and excessive political correctness isn't cool especially in this instance. But seriously, getting mad because best buy tried to attract some muslim customers by typing a few letters on the fliers is absurd.
     
  2. Shovel Face

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    So I guess Liberals would be happier if Christmas had never became a Federal Holiday. Nothing would make a liberal happier than completely destroying the cultural heritage of this great country. (but don't dare do it to others)

    Voting for Obama, being a socialist, watching The Office and hating Christmas is "rad".

    I think we need a Federal "Douchebag Day" for Liberals. I'm sure they all are at work on Christmas Day anyway.

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  3. DonnyMost

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    When I think of Shovel Face, this guy automatically comes to mind:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of

    Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be

    ESCONDIDO, CA—Spurred by an administration he believes to be guilty of numerous transgressions, self-described American patriot Kyle Mortensen, 47, is a vehement defender of ideas he seems to think are enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and principles that brave men have fought and died for solely in his head.

    [​IMG]

    Kyle Mortensen would gladly give his life to protect what he says is the Constitution's very clear stance against birth control.

    "Our very way of life is under siege," said Mortensen, whose understanding of the Constitution derives not from a close reading of the document but from talk-show pundits, books by television personalities, and the limitless expanse of his own colorful imagination. "It's time for true Americans to stand up and protect the values that make us who we are."
    According to Mortensen—an otherwise mild-mannered husband, father, and small-business owner—the most serious threat to his fanciful version of the 222-year-old Constitution is the attempt by far-left "traitors" to strip it of its religious foundation.

    "Right there in the preamble, the authors make their priorities clear: 'one nation under God,'" said Mortensen, attributing to the Constitution a line from the Pledge of Allegiance, which itself did not include any reference to a deity until 1954. "Well, there's a reason they put that right at the top."

    "Men like Madison and Jefferson were moved by the ideals of Christianity, and wanted the United States to reflect those values as a Christian nation," continued Mortensen, referring to the "Father of the Constitution," James Madison, considered by many historians to be an atheist, and Thomas Jefferson, an Enlightenment-era thinker who rejected the divinity of Christ and was in France at the time the document was written. "The words on the page speak for themselves."

    According to sources who have read the nation's charter, the U.S. Constitution and its 27 amendments do not contain the word "God" or "Christ."

    Mortensen said his admiration for the loose assemblage of vague half-notions he calls the Constitution has only grown over time. He believes that each detail he has pulled from thin air—from prohibitions on sodomy and flag-burning, to mandatory crackdowns on immigrants, to the right of citizens not to have their hard-earned income confiscated in the form of taxes—has contributed to making it the best framework for governance "since the Ten Commandments."

    "And let's not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American," Mortensen said.

    Mortensen's passion for safeguarding the elaborate fantasy world in which his conception of the Constitution resides is greatly respected by his likeminded friends and relatives, many of whom have been known to repeat his unfounded assertions verbatim when angered. Still, some friends and family members remain critical.

    "Dad's great, but listening to all that talk radio has put some weird ideas into his head," said daughter Samantha, a freshman at Reed College in Portland, OR. "He believes the Constitution allows the government to torture people and ban gay marriage, yet he doesn't even know that it guarantees universal health care."

    Mortensen told reporters that he'll fight until the bitter end for what he roughly supposes the Constitution to be. He acknowledged, however, that it might already be too late to win the battle.

    "The freedoms our Founding Fathers spilled their blood for are vanishing before our eyes," Mortensen said. "In under a year, a fascist, socialist regime has turned a proud democracy into a totalitarian state that will soon control every facet of American life."

    "Don't just take my word for it," Mortensen added. "Try reading a newspaper or watching the news sometime."
     
  4. sabesque

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    HA! I see what you're doing. Satire a la Colbert right?

    If not, what does any of this make believe have to do with Eid Al-Adha?
     
  5. Major

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    How is that a double standard? They don't mention ANY religious holiday during Christmas because lots of different people celebrate different things during that time and they want to advertise to all of them.

    This Thanksgiving ad suggests they are OK mentioning religious holidays when it makes sense. A better comparison is if they are unwilling to mention, say, Easter. (I have no idea if they are or not)
     
  6. Pete Chilcutt

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    You really are an ignorant idiot.

    Go actually learn something then make a comment like this. People like you really eff up this entire world
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    You do know that you can get banned for putting that image up right? I mean if I were you I would take it down immediately. Look at what that says?
     
  8. BucMan55

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    If BB comes out with such a press release, I'll certainly beleive it. Though I personally think Christianity gets the same treatment in the US that a boss does when he/she is dating an employee. So as not to appear to play favorites, he/she appears to be a teeeeny bit more strict and give her a little less leeway.


    In other words, I think there is something to it, but its nowhere near as bad as loonies would have you believe.
     
  9. Ubiquitin

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    What is wrong with voting for Obama?

    What socialist activities have we engaged in that you would not engage in?

    What's The Office have to do with anything?

    Why associate Douchebags with liberalism?

    Are you even old enough to vote?

    Why do you hate America?
     
  10. Depressio

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    You need to include all of the religious holidays or none of 'em at all, these days. If not, someone's going to raise a stink. Thus, if you don't include Christmas, you don't include the Muslim holiday. "Happy Holidays" covers it anyway.
     
  11. Ubiquitin

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    Write a letter to Best Buy and state your rationale for your opinion. But as of now, every business does it differently. I've seen a few Merry Christmas used, and I will continue to see it.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    In that case Seasons Greetings to you!
     
  13. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    If you're going to publish celebratory comments for religious holidays then do it or don't do it. They're bending over backwards not to offend religious minorities in a country where Americans overwhelmingly celebrate Christmas but they'll give a nod to a Muslim holiday in a country where 5% of the population is Muslim? That's ridiculous. For once I can understand why Christians would be ticked off by this kind of thing.
     
  14. Depressio

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    You're confusing my rationale for actually giving a ****.
     
  15. aghast

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    Et tu, judoka? You got converted?

    I never would have suspected that the Jew Muslims could have gotten to you, too, what with your fancy kickin' and advanced throwin' abilities.

    I'm gonna go eat me a hot dog (yep, a pork hot dog) & pour a little Mad Dog 20/20 on the ground in your memory, Jewdo. You Jewdo Muslims don't drink Mad Dog, do ya? Against your religion, and whatnot?

    This is 'Merica, dangit. This is 'Merica!
     
  16. pgabriel

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    no doubt there is a point to be made, but I go back to my original point, you should be upset at the commercialization of christmas in the first place.
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    They made an offer I couldn't refuse. Don't worry you will see how good things can be when you join us in our utopia of Happy Holidays and Season's Greetings..

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  18. JuanValdez

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    From a marketing standpoint, putting a Muslim holiday makes sense because it can do something to increase intimacy with Muslim customers. Muslims might be better inclined toward BB, since they bothered to acknowledge Muslims. And, I like how they did it; Eid's hard to see in that ad if you're not attuned to the word. Mentioning Christmas, on the other hand, doesn't get you much -- it is so taken for granted, that no intimacy with Christian customers is created. Meanwhile, other customers might feel excluded. Of course, now that Christians feel beseiged, you can get some mileage by saying Christmas.

    I think BestBuy is stuck between 2 marketing strategies here -- being vague with Happy Holidays, and being specific to target a certain audience. For Mass Media, "Happy Holidays" is probably best. But, they can also do some targeted marketing, sending Eid acknowledgements to Muslims, Christmas wishes to Christians, Kwanzaa allusions to the afrocentric, etc. They just need to be able to define who is who in their customer profiles.
     
  19. Samurai Jack

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    I for one am never shopping at BB again.

    How dare them not wish me " Happy Festivus "
     
  20. DBrunk01

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    Far be it from me to ruin an unnecessarily long debate, but here's Best Buy's response.

    Keep in mind, this mostly came about because they took heat for choosing to not utter the word "Christmas" in the past.

    Anyway, the official Best Buy statement:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/christmas/bestbuy2009.asp
     

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