I bet if he had won just three of those six coin flips, all won by Clinton who earned all those delegates in those precincts. He'd have been declared winner. I bet he got the popular vote
UOTE=Nolen;10285164]I'm a Bernie supporter and if he ran independent, I would curse his name to hell and back again and never forgive him. Ever. It's one thing to vote one's conscience, and then there's gift-wrapping the presidency for whatever doucheclown gets the repub nod. That move would be utterly, totally unforgivable. In fact, if he doesn't do his part to personally support Hill if she gets the nod, and urge his supporters to vote in November, then he can eat **** for not doing his part to fight the greater enemy.[/QUOTE] I would be very pissed at Bernie if he had pulled a Nader, but Bernie is not so stupidly naïve or a beginner in electoral politics as Ralph was, though I like his books and ideas. . Bernie has said even from starting that he will not be a "spoiler." Bernie has no desire to see old Cruz make the Desert Glow, put women in prison for abortion, declare Biblical Law, give more and bigger tax breaks to the .1%, have special tax breaks to bring back the Hummer. abolish the IRS and the UN or whatever. It will be perhaps tricky for Bernie to get the folks who support him to ehnthusiastically support Hillary with her corporate Dem ways, but he will try. Some of his supporters are folks who Hillary would never have gotten out to vote. Eventually I also think that he will morph his support into something like "Sanders Clubs" to put the heat on Hillary if she is elected to counteract her return to the Jamie Dimon, Robin Rubin types that have been the Clinton's buds since they went to Washington. I personally will vote for Hillary and urge any folks to vote for her but will not contribute money. That is what she has her Wall Street friends for. Of course, let us see how enthusiastically Hillary reacts if she doesn't get the nomination.
CNN asked Bernie, "can you weigh in on Hillary asserting herself as a progressive." His response made me laugh. self.SandersForPresident "Yes, except when she says she's a moderate."
That would be a really good thing, actually. There's a lot of energy in his campaign that should not just be buried. In fact, if focused on local elections and state-level politics, it could do a lot more good (arguably) than the run at POTUS. Hope he can keep it stoked somehow after he (in my prediction) doesn't get the nom.
Easy prediction as the rules are still strongly stacked against Bernie. There are reports of stunts like the NV Dem Party not taking steps to notify Dems of when the caucuses are. Of course many of the superdelegates and folks like Warren apparently are reluctant to cross the Clinton/corporate Dems. To keep his supporters interested I think Bernie will have to keep his focus on national issues or issues like free state tuition in say NY or Cal or even in TX, all of which used to have free or nominal tuition prior to the conservative drive to trickle up began.Some of the young Berniacs will eventually get the electoral bug and run for school board or whatever. I also see Bernie as one of the few folks very capable of beating the incumbent presidential candidate of his own party in 2020 if Hilary cannot get enough separation from her .1% crowd.
Yeah, I wasn't bragging about myself as a genius. And it is mainly demographics stacked against Bernie, as we've seen posted previously. There just aren't enough liberal white people outside of Iowa, Vermont and New Hampshire to propel his campaign into a long primary fight. Spoiler
Coin flips had no impact on the outcome. When you hear something that sounds wrong (an election was decided by coinflip), first thing to do is question whether it's true. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/hillary-clinton-coin-flip-iowa-bernie-sanders/index.html Coin flips -- specifically "games of chance" -- are used in rare circumstances at precinct caucuses to adjudicate ties or resolve issues created by rounding errors. At stake at these precinct-level coin flips is the one remaining slot in that precinct for a campaign to send a delegate to attend that precinct's county convention. Coin flips are not used to decide which candidate wins a state convention delegate or national convention delegate. ... Of the seven coin flips/games of chance that were held in precincts using the Microsoft app, six of those were flips to determine whether a county delegate slot went to Clinton or Sanders. Of those six Clinton-vs.-Sanders coin flips, Sanders won five and Clinton one. The seventh coin flip was used to determine whether a county delegate slot went to Sanders or Martin O'Malley. Sanders won that coin flip as well. So in the seven coin flips that the Iowa Democratic Party has a record of, Sanders won six of them. So it's incorrect to say that Clinton won every coin flip. As for the less-than-half of the precincts that didn't use the Microsoft app, it's unclear how many coin flips took place. Only anecdotal information is available on these flips, such as web videos that circulated Monday night. ...
Bernie will be too old in 2020 (He's pushing it now). It is too bad he isn't younger. Would you rather have Hilary for the next 4 years just to be stuck with her again in 2020, or a Republican to win and have a progressive democrat (i.e. Warren) run in 2020?
Sanders seems to be really pushing Clinton. She is starting to parrot him on a lot of views. Sanders on that alone, has made an accomplishment. Even if he looses nomination, he has moved Clinton to reflect a similar image as him on a lot of issues. Disappointingly though, I don't know how much she would actually stay true on if she wins.
Former head of NAACP to endorse Bernie. Hillary is losing support daily among African Americans particularly as the Clintons' role throughout the years in pushing mass encarceration becomes more widely known. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/bernie-sanders-ben-jealous-endorsement-naacp/index.html
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Iowa Democratic Party Chair Refusing To Review Caucus Results Is A HUGE Hillary Supporter <a href="https://t.co/KO21q1umLg">https://t.co/KO21q1umLg</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyCaller">@dailycaller</a></p>— Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) <a href="https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/695345541987700738">February 4, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This is an issue, but of course for Commodore the typical conservative/"libertarian" it would be just fine if it was Cruz or Rand and the GOP chair was suppressing things to aid one of them.
No, you are projecting again. It does not follow that just because you people are thoroughly comfortable with corruption, that everyone is. In fact, conservative libertarian types want free and fair elections, without cheating or the backroom crowd moving in to fix things they way they want. I know you probably consider that old-fashioned and way out of style. Nevertheless, that is what conservative libertarian types want, certainly including both Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.
Bologna. Conservative libertarians want unlimited money in elections which is what leads to political corruption. Ted Cruz wants states to have the power to override a Supreme Court decision. I don't even know why you keep posting this nonsense. Do you think if you keep repeating the fiction that it'll become any more true? You're actually starting to sound like Ted Cruz.
You just put "without cheating" and "Ted Cruz" on the same side of an argument. He couldn't even go one primary state without underhanded campaign action. We want free and fair.. oh wait! VOTER VIOLATION (sic)! You need to report immediately to your local precinct and vote for me b/c others are suspending (sic) their campaigns!
