1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,471
    No not really... but like we have stated MILLIONS of times... and the other option REALISTICALLY is Trump.
     
  2. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    17,927
    Likes Received:
    8,452
    I like how the left is blaming Trump for the reason Bernie endorsing Hillary.

    Lets be real. If you go against your party, your political career is history. Its the party who controls the money. Wall Street bought out the democrat party a long time ago. Suckers.
     
  3. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,471
    Well if it's true then...

    I mean you can't just make assertions and assume that we will just accept your paradigm as truth.

    Yes, Bernie rationally believes that Trump is more dangerous than Hillary? You can disagree with his sentiments but what is so outlandish about him desiring Hillary over Trump?
     
  4. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    10,344
    Likes Received:
    1,203
    That's because Bernie is a con man and never had any intentions of running as an independent. Besides, do you really think you are not using fear to campaign for Clinton when you say something like that?

    [​IMG]
     
  5. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,471
    I know this is going to sound like I have a 'persecution complex' but as a brown minority from a Muslim background I actually do believe I have a rational reason to be fearful of Donald Trump. When someone at the presidential level of campaigns is willing to outright pander to white nationalists with "Donald J Trump will temporally ban all Muslim immigration to the US" which results in a massive applause(what type of person applauds for a ban of an entire religious group of people) I really do legitimately fear the discourse and singling out of people who look like me. I've experienced it first hand. I've been questioned my loyalty to this country TO MY FACE because I am brown and 'look' Muslim. It can be unnerving. When he is so willing to make completely fabricated lies about thousands upon thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey city over 9/11 which would in all practical sense incriminate every Muslim in Jersey city as terrorist lovers since there are only 10 thousand Muslims to begin with in Jersey City, it irks me. I'm sorry if my interests sound selfish but that irks me more than maintaining the current status quo. You can understand where my fear of Trump comes from at the very least right?
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,164
    Likes Received:
    48,305
    Except Sanders hasn't been a Democrat for the vast majority of is political career. He also has a very safe seat and won his initial state election beating a Democrat. Considering he is funding a primary opponent to Wasserman-Schultz shows how little love, or fear, there is between him and the party leadership.
     
  7. MexAmercnMoose

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,079
    Likes Received:
    488
    Mexican American here....I understand your fear
     
  8. Granville

    Granville Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    There was evidence of everything he wrote.... Man up and accept that you're behind a crooked party.
     
  9. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    24,989
    Likes Received:
    23,240
    Let's be accurate. Bernie has a strong following. He can do whatever.

    He endorses Hillary is so normal not only because that's the party he align with more forever, but because Trump is exceptionally something he's against.
     
  10. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    24,989
    Likes Received:
    23,240
    ^ since forever
     
  11. glynch

    glynch Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    18,005
    Likes Received:
    3,544

    Just as I believe some of the Bernie supporters need to get over that Bernie lost and makes plans to keep pushing for progressive outcomes, some of the Dems who claim to be progressive yet are big Hillary backers need to accept that Bernie pushed Hillary and the Dems to be more progressive than contented incrementalists ever though possible.

    I suspect that if there was a moderate Democrat who used to be a Republican you would not be concerned about it.

    Please explain your seeming theory that Bernie only has taken the same positions for 40 years because he has always had a safe seat..

    As far as backing one candidate against another in a primary, have you ever been guilty of that? Would that then make you less a "Democrat."?

    I am not sure you realize what being a Democrat is all about. Hint: it is not a dues paying organization with a rigid for example purely centrist ideology.
     
  12. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    17,927
    Likes Received:
    8,452
  13. RocketsLegend

    RocketsLegend Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    6,619
    Likes Received:
    1,529
  14. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,741
    Likes Received:
    20,387
    He sold out by getting 90% of what he wanted in the platform. That's the kind of selling out that his supporters can be happy about.
     
  15. pirc1

    pirc1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,129
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    Are there more Never Hillary or more never Trump out there? ;)
     
  16. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 1999
    Messages:
    9,241
    Likes Received:
    4,748
    There are a bunch of us "Never Either" people out here.
     
  17. pirc1

    pirc1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,129
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    Good luck with that, you get one or the other.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
    Thankfully there were enough sane people to not vote either Sanders or Trump
     
  19. TheresTheDagger

    Joined:
    May 20, 2010
    Messages:
    10,110
    Likes Received:
    7,766
    Lets be real.

    On Friday, the platform gets put away until 4 years from now and the next DNC where they'll blow the dust off and adjust it again. (Same with the RNC btw)

    Meanwhile, it gets ignored otherwise.
     
  20. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,367
    Likes Received:
    22,439
    How can Republicans (trump specifically) blast Bernie for "selling out" while at the same time lambaste Ted Cruz for not selling out? lol at this hypocrisy.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now