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Berman: Rockets talking with point guard's agent

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by r-fan-since-81, Jul 14, 2004.

  1. RocksMillenium

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    That's exactly why I like Daniels. I thought he played well in San Antonio, and he was good friends with Duncan, which is why I was shocked they got rid of him. And, as jump shooter mentioned, he gives us solid match-ups against opposing guards. And he would help the defense big time, big guards like McGrady and Daniels clogging up the passing lanes? JVG would be in heaven!
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    The articles talking about Seattle's pursuit of Fisher cite their coach's desire to get a perimeter defender to set the tone for the team. What does that say about Daniels' defense? (Not that I'm worried about the Rockets' D; I want some O.)

    Also, yes you take Kidd if you're only giving up Taylor, Spoon and Pike. That's a steal. I think NJ will be looking for more.
     
  3. Desert Scar

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    For the record AD playoff experience was in a back-up role. He never could beat out Stoudamire, A Johnson, or a mistake prone rookie (Parker) as a starting PG on playoff teams where that position was not exactly a strength.

    I still like him, but I think expectations should be realistic and his career productivity should be in context (usually a back-up where there is a different level of pressure and focus by the opponents).
     
  4. Da Man

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    Antonio Daniels was the starter in San Antonio by the time the 2001 playoffs began. Avery Johnson only averaged 23 mpg that year. Daniels was the lead guard. He didn't perform very well during those playoffs either. But I do prefer him over Damon Jones. Damon Jones had a very subpar camp with the Rockets 3 years ago.
     
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    I think that you are right on a lot of what you said. I disagree that Jones could possibly have worse D than Barry(we are scraping the bottom of the barrel here). I would rather have Barry, but for the price I would choose Jones. this doesn't necessarily have to be our year.
     
  6. Dennis2112

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    You judge the man on what he did 3 years ago in a training camp environment but disregard what he did THIS year in the regular season and playoffs. Seems a bit short-sighted. Sometimes it takes a player a few years to get it together and DJ seems to be on the up-swing.

    Give the guy a try if he does want a big payday.
     
  7. LongTimeFan

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    Based on what? The fact he was released? The Rockets had two point guards automatically ahead of him, so RUDY released him so that he can hook on with another team. It was entirely mutual. He actually didn't look bad, he ran the break well and hit the three, I'd be glad to have him back.
     
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    http://silverchips.mbhs.edu/inside.php?sid=3705

    T-Mac will help Rockets lift off in the West
    Trade for superstar makes Houston immediate title contender
    by Michael Bushnell
    7/15/2004

    Tracy McGrady led the NBA in scoring last season, albeit on a last place team in Orlando. Following the season, he let it be known that if the Magic did not put more talent around him, that he would opt out after next season and become an unrestricted free agent. And despite the probable return of Grant Hill for next year, Pat Garrity’s definite return as a viable long-range threat and the number one draft pick in Thursday’s NBA Draft, GM John Weisbrod didn’t want to risk seeing McGrady leave for nothing, similar to Shaquille O’Neal’s departure eight years ago.

    So Weisbrod and the Magic brass got something for a superstar, dealing McGrady, Juwan Howard, Tyronn Lue and Reece Gaines to Houston for Silver Spring native Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato. The deal gives Houston two of the best ten players in the NBA, (something Francis never was) including the NBA’s leading scorer.

    What makes McGrady even deadlier in Houston is coach Jeff Van Gundy’s insistence to run the offense through 7’5" center Yao Ming, the best passing big man in the league. With Yao’s uncanny ability to find any of the other four men on the court at any time, McGrady stands to be able to get the ball when he’s open nearly 100% of the time. He is an excellent player off the ball, and unlike last season where he led the league in scoring with 28 PPG despite being constantly double teamed, he will now have talent to work with, enabling him to get free more often and use his outstanding shooting touch.

    Plus there is the age factor. McGrady has just turned 25, while Francis is 28. While Francis is still young and in his athletic prime, one must remember that Orlando, with their pick of high schooler Dwight Howard #1 overall in last Thursday’s NBA Draft, has shown they are in a long rebuilding period. By the time Orlando is ready to win, Francis will be 30 or 31.

    That said, the Magic weren't ripped off in this trade. Cuttino Mobley and Steve Francis were one of the best tandems in the league last season. Mobley is a smart team player and a good inside-outside athlete. If he gets enough shots, he has the potential to be an All-Star in the mold of Michael Redd of the Eastern Conference. Kelvin Cato is a solid bench player, and with 6’11" Dwight Howard now on the Magic, Cato can continue to get minutes off the pine like he did in Houston. The deal works for Orlando’s rebuilding plan, and in a weak Southeast division (with Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami and Washington), they could compete sooner than most think.

    While landing McGrady undoubtedly improves the title chances of the Rockets for this season and especially beyond that, the road to the Larry O’ Brien trophy is far from easy. First of all, Houston finds themselves playing next year in the newly formed Southwest division, where all five teams made the 2004 Playoffs. Also, there are major questions about whether or not Tyronn Lue could run the point for a serious contender. Nobody can question Lue’s effort and hustle, but they can question his size and his ability to play against Southwest division guards Jason Williams, Steve Nash, Tony Parker and Baron Davis, three of which are former all stars. However, there is also a very high chance that Houston will land Derek Fisher to run the offense, taking care of that issue.
    McGrady is the most prolific scorer in the league, and can score from anywhere on the court. The trade makes Houston immediately better for next year, and with McGrady enthusiastic about signing a long-term deal, the Rockets will have many years to bring the title back to Southeastern Texas. From a financial standpoint, owner Les Alexander now has a stunning new arena and a great product on court - which could make the Rockets the toast of the town in a football-crazed city. Even in the rough-and-tumble Western Conference, this trade ensures that the Rockets have all the pieces necessary to give the city of Houston their first major sports title in over a decade.
     
  9. eyhab27

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    woah!!! we got mcgrady?!! woohoo

    :p

    p.s. i want either AD or DJ.. i think DJ would be nicer to have since he is the hometown boy... and i really think that this will be his breakout season. Everyone likes him on and off the court; good guy/player overall!
     
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    The articles talking about Seattle's pursuit of Fisher cite their coach's desire to get a perimeter defender to set the tone for the team. What does that say about Daniels' defense? (Not that I'm worried about the Rockets' D; I want some O.)

    I really don't read to much into that. Everyone seems to be enamored with Fisher and disregard what they have. I mean, look at the Lakers. Fisher definitely didn't set the tone for them defensively the last few years. I think getting Fisher for defense is perception instead of reality. He was part of 3 championship teams so he must be a great defender.
     
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    Antonio Daniels was the starter in San Antonio by the time the 2001 playoffs began. Avery Johnson only averaged 23 mpg that year. Daniels was the lead guard. He didn't perform very well during those playoffs either. But I do prefer him over Damon Jones. Damon Jones had a very subpar camp with the Rockets 3 years ago.

    In the 2001 playoffs Daniels had a 3-to-1 assist to turnover ratio and averaged 13 ppg, 3 rpg, 2 rpg, shot 47.5% from the field and 37% from 3pt range and 93% from the FT line. I think that's pretty good!
     
  12. RocksMillenium

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    That should be 3 apg not rpg per game.
     
  13. ArtV

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    For some reason, unknown to even me, I'd rather DJones than ADaniels, though I'd be happy with either at this point. Please no Fisher or Snow though.
     
  14. kegray34

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    I guess you prefer Scott Brooks since he was a champion also.
    And Damon Jones is no prospect.He is 28 years old and from Cougar High.

    Daniels is the way to go if these are the only options.

    It will all be worthless when Reece Gaines gets his chance to shine.Gaines is the prospect here,not Damon Jones.
     
  15. Hank McDowell

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    "He is 28 years old and from Cougar High."


    The intelligent voice of wisdom and logic has spoken...
     
  16. wardellp

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    Cougar high is Cougar high.....whats not to understand? ;) :D

    Gig' em:D


    I also think Daniels is the way to go. He attacks the basket and, plays defense, and has a decent jumper ( he's no SNOW) ;)
     
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    Fisher just signed with Golden State for 37mil. We can mark him off the list.
     
  19. Hank McDowell

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    True.

    Maybe we should get one of the many fine Fightin' Texas Aggie point guards instead.
     
  20. Der Rabbi

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    Would that suggest that Nick the quick or Speedy are available?
     

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