[Bergen Record] Rockets interested in Marcin Gortat?

Even then,it's going to be a struggle for us since he is an RFA.

 

I wasn't talking about us as much as them. I'm not sure being a RFA will mean much if they aren't willing to go into LT. I think he will be fairly easily plucked away from Orlando because of their cap situation unless Hedo walks or they can unload salary somewhere else. I don't know the Magic owner's tendencies but is he the type to go into LT for a backup C?

 

Uh, considering that Curry isn't in the rotation, why do the Knicks need insurance for him?

 

this guy can't start. hes currently and has been in the perfect situation--playing 8-10 mins each night behind the best centre in the league when most of the other teams don't have a legit centre let alone a backup...so hes going against backup power forwards each night while dwight rips their hearts out for him before he comes in.

he'll get MLE level money probably...I'D LOVE FOR HIM TO BE ON THE ROCKETS...and I kinda like him as a player too.

overrated

 

I see what you mean now. I feel that they will hang unto him unless some one overpays for him.I should have said that poster number 11 is probably correct.

 

it seems to me every one wants this player. bidding war can be expected. i really doubt we have a chance. it's not the morey style.

 

Why doesn't Morey just sign Bourousis? He's a free agent and he's the best big man that's not in the NBA and he wants to come to the NBA.

 

If they do a S&T, they will still have to pay a $1 per $1 luxury tax on the player they get in return. They also lose out on luxury tax money. I don't see them doing all that for a guy that backups Dwight Howard for 10min a game.

 

would you have corrected my spelling if you agreed with me also


Ron wasn't exactly pouring in the points night in and night out...wafer could easily fill in 10-12pts a game, at least, with extended minutes.. shane should be coming back looking to score a bit more as well, at least 2-3 buckets more a game. Add to the that a back up center who actually has offensive skills, and that's another couple of points a game. That makes up for ron's 17 a game, and they'll probably be scored more efficiently as well, with better flow and more involvement. We have the talent to make up for ron no longer being here. however, if Yao goes down again or gets in consistent foul trouble due to not having an adequate back up, we dont have the big men to make up for it, especially if we stick with Hayes or pick up another short center.

And i'd say the chances of tmac not coming back at all are very very slim, he's not coming back from a kidney transplant or terrible car accident, it's knee surgery. Although a serious surgery, it went well and there's nothing to indicate his rehab is not going according to plan, he's also taking this more seriously, has the right professionals around him, etc.

 

Let's assume Yao goes down. I can't see zaza being any more productive than Gortat as a starter, i can see them producing about the same , just differently. Yes he's got more experience, he's more polished, but he's also a 90's type of center, he's gonna have his issues against the quicker big men currently in the league. Without Yao, we have to switch to a smaller and quicker team, and gortat fits that better than zaza.

Now let's assume Yao stays healthy. both gortat and zaza would be excellent back ups, but if both are solid, do you want a back up who's similar to Yao, or a backup who gives you a differen look? With zaza we can't switch things up, we can't matchup with every single team, gortat may not be blazing fast, but he's a matter matchup against quick big men and a better fit with the second unit.

 

I wasn't trying to be mean about the spelling thing so yes, I would have mentioned it as long as I planned on responding to your post (to agree or disagree).

I disagree with you about the likelihood of McGrady being a strong contributor next season. I do expect him to be back at some point but he won't be very good or consistent is my guess. I also wouldn't be surprised if he comes back only to end up suffering another injury or reaggravating existing conditions.

In your scenario, we give up Artest and go for a backup C like Gortat. We were already lacking a wing player who could legitimately fill the role of closer and I believe having a closer is crucial if you want to win a championship. I also believe that a closer pretty much has to be a perimeter player, at least based on the current NBA rules and player pool.

Artest was merely a stopgap solution as our primary perimeter threat but even as inefficient as he was, we wouldn't have been as succesful without him. The combination of Artest and Battier in the starting lineup, for all their defensive prowess, are not championship-caliber on the offensive end, no matter how much they give you in other areas.

In my opinion, I wouldn't go into next season banking on McGrady being able to contribute like he could before last season, esp. given Yao's contract situation, assuming you think we should work to keep Yao in Houston. If we don't pursue a scoring wing during the offseason and McGrady comes back gimpy again, re-injures himself, never fully recovers despite reports that he is progressing, etc..., I think we will have a tough time competing in the postseason without a closer, esp. if we also get rid of Artest in favor of a backup C. We may win a round or two but we will hit a wall at some point when we match up against a team that plays well at both ends.

Gortat is a nice backup for the right price but I think a scoring wing, even a 2nd-tier scoring wing (something like a John Salmons), is more important than getting a good backup C. I think we should go into next season with only one of Artest/Battier. If we resign Artest, trade Battier. If we plan to keep Battier, let Artest walk and pursue a 2nd-tier scoring wing as insurance against the likely scenario (in my opinion) that McGrady underperforms for the 2nd consecutive season. If there is any money after that, look for a decent, low cost backup C. There is only so much money we can spend so you can't get it all done. I guess it just comes down to what you see as our biggest weaknesses/priorities - more specifically, what Morey and crew see as our priorities.

 

Some team's going to way overpay for him and Turkoglu.

Just like the T-Wolves overpaid for Mike James.

 

Yea, but can Marcin or Hedo say "I'm ____ ____, b****!" as convincingly?

 

bring on the polish hammer!
at a cheap price though

 

Orlando would be foolish to let him walk but it would be a solid pickup for us if possible

 

how did the twolves over pay for mike james??? we offered an identical contract to him except we were really strict on not offering him a trade kicker...

he did score 20ppg in that contract year...in my opinion it was a bargain signing at the time

 

Wow. Have you not heard of slang? Stop being such a grammar nazi. You could disagree with the guy without being so antagonistic.

Back to the matter at hand, though. I agree with you though regarding Artest. He is more valuable than a back-up center, IMO, because he is the most realistic option we have for a third (second?) scorer for us. Maybe Mac being more of a playmaker can free up Artest and get him easier looks at the bucket. I realize that it looked pretty horrible with all 3 of them on the floor this season, but there was undoubtedly a learning curve, and McGrady was pretty gimpy.

I seriously hope Mac can seamlessly integrate himself into our current system, but something tells me that it's not going to be that easy.

 

Too harsh, man. I think that's the second time I've ever made a comment about spelling... a grammar Nazi makes a habit of it. Plus, I didn't mean it in a bad way even if it appeared to be the case. I explained as much in a later post. Your reaction makes you sound like the Reaction Nazi...

 

I admit that Zaza isn't going to be able to bring the speed that we need,but Gortat is an RFA.Even if the Magic decide not to retain him,other teams might offer him more than us because of his physical strength and athletic ability.

 

We have to offer this guy a 5 million contract at least to get him, while it won´t be fair to Scola or Landry, is what we need.

A very mobile center for his size, knows how to defend and how to finish, could allow us to rest Yao for a lot of minutes or even games as he is pretty much a poor mans Yao.

It doesn´t hurt us to give him a 4 years deal starting at 5 millions, and Orlando won´t match anyway.

But i think our best chance is to offer Orlando a sign and trade, while they can´t afford him, they can still use him to get something of use, say we offer Dorsey, Hayes and Barry for him.

All are expirings and Hayes has a team option for another year if they like what he brings, and they can also check out on Dorsey, Barry will do as a filler mainly and insurance backup PG-SG.