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Benson slams Mack

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Baqui99, Jul 23, 2004.

  1. francis 4 prez

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    actually, it's accurate. we shrivel up and die every time we face a good defense and it never ever changes. and his time as a head coach at tulane was God awful from what you read. greg davis is a failure, he just gets to ride the coattails of mack's ridiculously good recruiting and then does as little with it as possible. i think i call a better game on ps2.


    benson's comment seem weird to make. not so much weird in that they're wrong just weird to make considering he decided to come back and play for mack again, though that may just be about moving up in the draft and making more money (not that i care either way as long as he's back and running like the end of last year).
     
  2. TeXaSalsa

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    Sorry my post was misintepreted.. I meant calling Young a failure would be arrogant and ridiculous. Hell i dont like Greg Davis much although he is an excellent recruiter. Word is UT is about to land another top notch QB named Ryan Perrilloux. Davis' offense looks terrible at times I agree. I actually hope Mack does what he said he would do and become more involved in the offense. Davis' offense goes stagnant against any type of blitz sometimes.

    I don't expect a "miraculous recovery." UT's D at times was good last year. At times it stunk. Run D is the least of my concerns to be honest as Rod Wright is an excellent D-Linemen and UT should be fine against the run w/ their linebackers. MY HOPE is that he improves the secondary which at times looked lost last year. Cedric Griffin in particular is a guy that gave up on plays and got burned. Wish he'd be benched.

    Really my post was to attack back at the people that get excited as hell when UT fails.

    Benson's comments were weird.. thats a good word for it.
     
  3. Cohen

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    ooops... ;)
     
  4. SamFisher

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    The glooming and dooming posts prior to the 2004 Tech game (in which UT blew Tech out of their own stadium with ease) are great reading.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=85493&highlight=VEGAS+GUYS

    20 straight wins, two Rose Bowl wins, 1 Big 12 title, and 1 National Championship later, along with multiple sightings of Football Jesus, things are a bit different....
     
  5. Hakeem06

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    i think we would all be fooling ourselves if we didn't question mack brown's ability at one point in time to get texas to where they are now. he did lose 5 games in a row to OU and didn't get the big win until last season against michigan in the rose bowl. i questioned his ability as a coach to get texas to a championship, but i'm glad he did get texas to national title, because i do like mack brown. i think he is a good person but there is time where EVERYONE had their doubts and they were justified.

    i'm happy for mack because he deserves A LOT of credit for changing his approach to the big games and how he handles players. great job mack, you've taken a lot of heat from a lot of different people but you always handled it with class and it finally paid off.
     
  6. Cohen

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    Good post... but one thing that should be remembered in all sports...and business...is give people due time. If they're doing some things right or maybe even excellent (e.g. recruiting), give them time to adjust the other aspects. Don't assume the worst.

    In b-school there are many good case studies that show how many US businesses screw-up due to an overemphasis on the short term at the expense of the long term.
     
  7. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Exactly. How long did Tom Osborne take to win a national championship. Now he's remembered as one of the all-time greats.

    And I guess I should divulge that I have done a complete 180 on Mack Brown over the years.
     
  8. Hakeem06

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    same thing with bobby bowden and FSU.
     
  9. JBIIRockets

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    same here regarding Mack. Bobby Bowden also took forever at Florida St.

    I feel kinda stupid not believing in Mack in the past but he has changed a lot as well. He used to take every loss in the past so hard, and maybe that affected his players, but when he lightened up and decided that coaching wasn't his whole life, just a small part of it, Mack seemed to be looser as a person.
     
  10. MadMax

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    he talked about this recently. said he talked to a lot of coaches and their wives over the last year...they all said that the one thing they regretted was not enjoying it more. not enjoying the moment, because they were too caught up in worrying about things. he said he and his wife decided to make a very serious effort to be in the moment and enjoy it all.

    what a great attitude about life...and perhaps it was a part of the longhorns' success this season.
     
  11. Cohen

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    Should we let Greg Davis off the hook yet? He's always been my problem, the only thing that tempered it for me was Mack's confidence in him.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Greg Davis is at his best when he has a good quarterback and gets out of his way. Vince and Major called their own plays. Simms was not smart enough to.
     
  13. Hakeem06

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    for whatever reason davis wasn't confident in simms as his QB, i believe a lot of my problems with davis came from that because they never used roy williams like they should have. he is the best college wide receiver i've seen. i know his stats aren't there but the talent was. he dropped only a handful of passes during his career at texas and was a terrific blocker. i still will never forgive davis for not using roy williams more, regardless of who's QB. but regardless, i think when he trusts his QB, his offense works a lot better in the big games.
     
  14. apostolic3

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    I have NEVER understood why people were so hard on Mack Brown. Even before this season, he's obviously brought the program from the valley into the upper echelon. How thankless can people be? If Texas had been stupid enough to let him go, no good coach in their right mind would have taken the job after him. It would have been suicide.

    Now that UT has won the national championship, Mack should be appreciated. And I say this as someone who is just getting over him benching Major Applewhite for Chris Simms. A completely dumb and classless act. But it's clear Mack has grown as a coach since then. I almost like him now. VY had me rooting hard all year for UT.
     
  15. Cohen

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    ...and the most wins since 1998 of any college coach.
     
  16. DVauthrin

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    The thing is somewhere in last season Mack finally loosened up and just let his players play. Before that even at Texas he had a rep of losing one game a year he shouldn't and playing not to lose instead of to win. Since the Rose Bowl vs Michigan, the change has been night/day. I don't think any of the fans were wrong after the Holiday Bowl two years ago to feel the way we did. He put loyalty to Davis above the team/fans, and the program had to seemed to stagnate right before getting to the top of the mountain. The "new" Mack is letting the great talent he recruits make plays for us. He also hired two top notch D coordinators in the past two seasons(Chizik/Robinson) and Dick Tomey was a successful coach at the college level many years prior to going to Texas. Plus, some of it was the way we were losing to OU doing the streak.

    Personally, this is a dream come true for the university, fans and alumni(such as myself). I always wanted Mack to succeed, as he is easy to root for. But it was a legit concern two years ago that he was too nice a guy to get to the top. Now, he has a lifetime Texas contract as far as I'm concerned.

    Hook Em'
     

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