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Ben Tate expendable?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Marteen, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. No Worries

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    Ben Tate better be better than Foster, or the Texans wasted a top pick.
     
  2. v3.0

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    What if Foster becomes an All-Pro or Pro Bowler? Tate has to be better than that?
     
  3. ChievousFTFace

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    I hope he recovers well... you can't have too much RB depth.
     
  4. No Worries

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    Yes or the Texans wasted a top pick. The expectations for the top pick is to be an all-star or near all-star. Tate watching Foster be an all-star from the bench makes him a wasted pick.
     
  5. Scarface281

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    I'm glad you're not being serious.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    He won't be watching from the bench even if Foster turns out to be better. One runningback is not enough in the NFL these days.
     
  7. liljojo

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    So if the Pats drafted a QB in the 5th round, they'd expect him to have a better career than Brady, just because a 5th round pick is "expected" to be better than a 6th round pick?

    I expect Tate to be very good, but if Foster's production has been legit (so far it looks that way), it's unreasonable to expect Tate to beat him out. He's on pace to have a record-breaking season. Tate isn't (and shouldn't be) expected to top that. Sometimes there are diamonds in the rough.
     
  8. v3.0

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    What's your thoughts on Amobi Okoye and Duane Brown thus far?
     
  9. No Worries

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    Disappointed in Okoye. He is still young and is playing better this year, so there is still hope.

    Brown has played well. I could see him playing at near all-star level for many year.
     
  10. liljojo

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    Also, if every 1st and 2nd round draft pick was an all-star, we'd have at least 64 new all-stars every year. Assuming the average shelf life of 1st and 2nd rounders is...what? 5-6 years?

    That would be one heck of a Pro-bowl.

    Expectations hardly ever equal reality.
     
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  11. MadMax

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    consequences would never be the same.
     
  12. wallyj12

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    Haven't you noticed in the first three games of the season and even parts of the Raiders game that whenever Slaton carried the ball he gained maybe 1 yard on each of his runs? Its pretty much been a wasted down whenever Foster has to be spelled and they go with a run play. Ward played really well but he's not a long term solution, Slaton showed flashes but he's yet to prove he can be counted on. If Tate can come in and give production on every run how is that a wasted pick? If we don't have someone that can be a threat other than Foster, then teams know to guard the pass whenever he's resting because our other backs will just carry it for minimal gains.
     
  13. FLASH21

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    Isn't it a good thing to find undrafted or late round hidden talent?

    So that means that with every Brandon Marshall, Marques Colston, Terrell Davis, or Tom Brady, you should still have nothing but All Stars coming out of the draft thru the 1st two rounds?
     
  14. Marteen

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    I never once said that the Texans should trade Ben Tate. Please read my post again before jumping to conclusions. What I'm asking you guys if Ben Tate is gonna be given alot of time next year to play running back next year? Is Arian Foster their starter from now on? Some people have forgotten about Ben Tate. Please keep that in mind.
     
  15. Joe Joe

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    Slaton is averaging 5.5 yards per carry. Ward is averaging 6 yards per carry. Philadelphia is averaging 5.5 yards per carry for second best in the NFL in yards per carry. Slaton carrying the ball is exemplary production. Yes, Foster is better, but I don't think it is fair to judge Slaton against a guy who is on pace to have one of the best rushing seasons ever. Heck, Chris Johnson averaged 5.6 yard per carry last season...I don't think the Titans wasted carries handed it off to him last season.

    Foster needs to be rested to keep his production high.
     
  16. No Worries

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    Yes it is. My comments are in no way a dis on Foster.
     
  17. No Worries

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    Agreed.

    Reality is that a team's first round draft pick should be an above average starter (and not a backup).

    I realized starting RBs do not (and should not) play every possible down. But a backup RB playing every third down does not bring as much value to the team as an above average starter at DT, OG S, WR, etc who play most downs.
     
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    Thank you... I was gonna say, Im pretty sure Slaton has actually been pretty good when he has got the ball. Yeah there have been a few one yard carries but he is still averaging a pretty high YPC.

    Honestly, I think if Slaton was our only RB and he was the starter, he would be getting a lot of yards too. Obviously not as much as Foster, but I think it goes to show how good our offensive line has been this season. I mean even Ward came in and got 80 yards and a TD. It hasnt seemed to matter a whole lot who runs the ball for us from what I have seen this season so far

    I am still happy Foster is the one getting the majority of the touches though. I wouldnt want it any other way.
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Yes, because before the draft the Texans and their fans KNEW Arian Foster would perform like he has. The last 2 games of the season (1 where he did much of his damage in the 2nd half against a team resting players) were enough to crown his ass next season's starter. *Nobody*, certainly not any fans and certainly no one on this board, was in favor of drafting a high-ceiling running back. Look back on all the articles & posts on "draft needs", RB is never mentioned.
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    Yeah, let's get rid of Tate. Foster's play over the last 4 games clearly means we are 100% set at RB for the next 10 years.
     

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