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Beltran traded to Astros for Dotel and John Buck

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, May 31, 2004.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Hidalgo, Pettitte, and Wagner.
     
  2. Lil Francis

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    He traded Wagner because he knew he would have to pay him a bigger contract. Pettitte only signed for 3 seasons.
     
  3. JPM0016

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    Doug Drabek, Greg Swindell.

    Andy Pettitte may only be signed for three years but he's due to make 17 mill his last. Kent took a discount but still got 18 mil over 2 years.
     
  4. JPM0016

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    Wagner wasn't going to get a bigger contract. He was making 9 million, top money for an elite closer. The astros had to cut some payroll. When you have 9 million invested in a closer who gets you 3 outs every 3 or so games, it hurts a club, especially a middle market club. Besides his comments didn't help the situation
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    You have no idea what you're talking about...
     
  6. rrj_gamz

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    That would be awesome as we need some instant help this year...
     
  7. Austin70

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    Any other "B" names we want to get?
     
  8. RocketManJosh

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    Chron: Astros pursuing Royals' Beltran

    Wow ... Houston is an exciting place lately when it comes to trades

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2643540

    Astros pursuing Royals' Beltran
    By BRIAN McTAGGART
    Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle
    RESOURCES

    The Astros are one of a handful of teams in the running to obtain Kansas City Royals center fielder Carlos Beltran through a three-team trade, sources have said.


    According to sources, the Astros have explored the possibility of acquiring Beltran from the Royals and shipping closer Octavio Dotel to the Oakland A's, who would send prospects to Kansas City.


    Beltran, 27, is a switch hitter who is batting .280 with 14 home runs and 50 RBIs and 14 stolen bases. He hit .307 last year with 26 home runs and 100 RBIs and was the AL Rookie of the Year in 1999.


    "I'm not going to comment on specific trade discussions," Astros general manager Gerry Hunsicker said. "There are a lot of conversations going on these days."


    The Royals are in last place in the American League Central at 27-40 and are prepared clean house. They sent reliever Jason Grimsley to the Orioles for minor league pitcher Denny Bautista on Monday.


    Oakland general manager Billy Beane has expressed interest in bolstering his bullpen before the July 31 trading deadline. The A's have a bevy of top prospects in the minor leagues.
     
  9. codell

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    Surely we can't get someone like Beltran for just Dotel..............

    I would feel bad for Lane. Gets the job handed to him only to have it taken away a few weeks later. :(
     
  10. MadMax

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    WOW! I love Dotel...but I'd do that in a heartbeat.
     
  11. MadMax

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    oh...wait. just heard Francis opposes this trade. looks like it won't happen.

    :(
     
  12. bobrek

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    Depends on the prospects that Oakland would send to the Royals. I suspect you are right, however. The Astros wouldn't want to give up too much unless they could sign Beltran to a deal prior to the trade being finalized.
     
  13. RocketManJosh

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    I was thinking this as well
     
  14. leroy

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    Just posted on chron.com

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2643540

    Astros pursuing Royals' Beltran
    By BRIAN McTAGGART
    Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle
    RESOURCES
    THE PROPOSED TRADE: The Astros have explored the possibility of acquiring Carlos Beltran from the Royals and shipping closer Octavio Dotel to the Oakland A's, who would send prospects to Kansas City.

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    SPORTS POLL
    Which would be better trade for a Houston team?


    The Rockets signing Tracy McGrady
    The Astros getting Carlos Beltran



    SEE POLL RESULTS




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    CARLOS BELTRAN
    Age: 27
    Date of birth: April 24, 1977
    Place of Birth: Manati, Puerto Rico
    Hometown: Manati, Puerto Rico
    HT: 6-1 WT: 190
    Bats/Throws: S/R
    Salary: $9,000,000
    MLB Seasons: 6
    Drafted by Kansas City in 1995 (2nd round). Full stats
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    OCTAVIO DOTEL
    Age: 30
    Date of birth: November 25, 1973
    Place of Birth: Santo Domingo, Dom. Rep.
    HT: 6-0 WT: 210
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Salary: $2,800,000
    MLB Seasons: 5
    Signed by NY Mets in 1993. Acquired in a trade with NY Mets in 1999. Full stats
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    • ASTROS/MLB: Full Chronicle coverage, boxscores, stats
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    The Astros are one of a handful of teams in the running to obtain Kansas City Royals center fielder Carlos Beltran through a three-team trade, sources have said.


    According to sources, the Astros have explored the possibility of acquiring Beltran from the Royals and shipping closer Octavio Dotel to the Oakland A's, who would send prospects to Kansas City.


    Beltran, 27, is a switch hitter who is batting .280 with 14 home runs and 50 RBIs and 14 stolen bases. He hit .307 last year with 26 home runs and 100 RBIs and was the AL Rookie of the Year in 1999.


    "I'm not going to comment on specific trade discussions," Astros general manager Gerry Hunsicker said. "There are a lot of conversations going on these days."


    The Royals are in last place in the American League Central at 27-40 and are prepared clean house. They sent reliever Jason Grimsley to the Orioles for minor league pitcher Denny Bautista on Monday.


    Oakland general manager Billy Beane has expressed interest in bolstering his bullpen before the July 31 trading deadline. The A's have a bevy of top prospects in the minor leagues.




    Wow! Didn't see that one coming. I know Oakland has been dying for a close since Arthur Rhodes turned out to be a bust. l guess the Astros are prepared to hand it to Lidge.

    I am in Austin, so I have to ask this. What is in the water down there this week? The whole t-mac deal and now this?
     
  15. Harrisment

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    Wow....I never thought we would actually be players in this.. :eek:
     
  16. BigCountry132

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    Peter Gammons also brought up this idea on BBTN.
     
  17. mulletman

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    who would be the astros closer after dotel?

    if the astros got beltran, do you think they would still go after aaron boone?
     
  18. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    LMAO!

    If the trade is just for Dotel, then I would do it in a heartbeat. We can just re-trade him at the trade deadline if we are out of it and get someone else, maybe even better in return. No brainer.
     
  19. RocketManJosh

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    Without a doubt it would be Lidge closing

    If they got beltran I don't think there is any way they go after Boone
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    Probably Lidge, with Weathers being the main set-up guy.
     

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