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Being an employee in the corporate world - Is it for everyone?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Ehsan, Jul 6, 2008.

  1. macalu

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    that was inspiring.
     
  2. BMoney

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    Apparently, part of "growing up" is pissing all over somebody else's dreams after you've given up on yours. Why would anybody tell someone to commit to a life of doing something they don't want to do?
     
  3. Ehsan

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    I should've phrased it better, but I pretty much got all the answers I was looking for. Yes, there is a non-corporate world. But it is owned by the corporates for the most part and is being run like a corporates.

    Whoever it was that said at some point you need to realize you're just not special, not meant to do anything, that is pretty r****ded dude. I don't expect to be special, I don't expect to not be special. But this thread is about me loving myself, my life, and my family. I'm from a Middle Eastern Culture and for me to have 2-3 hours a day to myself means 1-2 hours with family/friends/etc because I need alone time as well, which is NOT enough. To be at a workplace where I have to bring out the other half of my split personality, the evil, political, impersonal side of me, it just disgusts me.

    We're becoming sheep. If you have it good in the corporate world, you're either the exception or you've paid your dues (I'd say overpaid, but thats opinion).

    Schedule is horriffic. I just want to start acting like a human being. I want to be able to do what makes me happy. I spent the first 23 years of my life thinking I want to be rich and I positioned myself to become rich given the right circumstances. I get payed better than anyone else fresh out of college, I'm in Finance, and I'm living in my home country which is starved for business leaders and ready to support me (or others of my nationality) in any way to see us grow and develop.

    Believe me, it's not about success. I just don't care anymore. I want to marry my girl and take jobs in different countries that allow us to get by. I just want to experience the world - not lavish by any means - but that's something I'd just like to do.

    Sort of like the movie Into the Wild. But personally, I'm more into sports, music and experiencing human cultures. How the worled fooled me into becoming a business major, spending two years with a major multinational brand, and then take this spot in the finance industry... I feel fooled. I'll admit it, they got me. All the marketers, all the media, newspapers, stories.. I just wanted money because, well, that's what "happy" people had.
     
  4. Ehsan

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    Is it that simple Jeff?

    You'd turn down twice what you're getting paid currently (for example) while doing the same thing you're doing now but for a big corporation?
     
  5. Lynus302

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    Exactly.
     
  6. Lynus302

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    I feel for you man, because I know exactly how you feel.

    I left the insurance industry to work in psych for four years. I took a huge pay cut, but life seemed....worth it, if you will. Maybe you ought to find something that gives you a greater sense of purpose. That's what I found in psych and why I'm going into nursing.
     
  7. Isabel

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    I actually feel fortunate that I never got used to making the money, or the lifestyle that came with it. Even what you got for teaching full-time seemed huge to me, and I used it to save for going back to school. I learned how to cut back some parts of my lifestyle and survive on a part-time salary while I go to school full time (in my field you can't really go part time and make it). It makes me a little sad that I can't take road trips anymore, what with the gas prices, but it's good not to need or expect much. If I was teaching full time, even with paying back loans, I would be quite well set with even a few "luxuries" by my standards. I can't imagine not being willing to give up the salary that y'all make, since I wouldn't need that much anyway, but on the other hand I did not get used to it.
     
  8. ubigred

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    I feel you.

    That is why I wake wishing I was Lebron James or Floyd Mayweather.

    40%(could argue its 30%) media related and training burdens.
    60% millions in the bank and being The Boss.

    The best life to live.
     
  9. hotblooded

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    I would have thought that the reason you entered the corporate world is because you liked what you did

    "corporate world" is such a generalised term and to say that "the corporate world" is boring is a bit unfair

    you cant possibly say that been a derivatives trader is boring? or working on multi billion dollar M&A transactions? or advising high net worth individuals?
     
  10. Jeff

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    Freedom is 100 times more important to me than money. The problem with working for a big company is that you get locked into big company rules and politics. You have to work the hours set for you (a big issue for me - if I can finish a project in 3 hours in the middle of the night, why do I have to sit at at desk working for you for 8 hours during the day?), dress by their rules, follow corporate policies.

    All of that drives me nuts because it eats into my ability to make choices for myself and the only thing I get from it is a paycheck that isn't guaranteed forever. Ask the people who worked for Enron.

    Now, I would take work for a non-profit or for a small company. I'd even do consulting work for big companies (have already done that and I'm sure will in the future). But, working in a big corporate environment is just not for me.
     
  11. Shroopy2

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    For the opposite gender, gold digging and child support gets this done
     
  12. plutoblue11

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    Nominee for quote of the century.
     
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    buy a motorcycle and pull an Easy Rider.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. dandorotik

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    I don't think the world fooled you- I think you fooled yourself. Did you not have an idea that this was going to be how your life would run if you were to pursue this industry? Seems pretty short-sighted on your part. You should really watch the movie "Lost in America." Trust me, those same things you complain about now can seem great later if you are faced with the constant worry of where/when the money is coming in. But, you're 23, and your viewpoint is typical of many people your age. And yes, this is a 40 year-old individual sitting on his soapbox preaching to you.

    You have every right to make whatever decision you'd like regarding your career- just remember that there are people scraping and struggling to get by who would KILL to have your life. And also remember that the "Into the Wild" lifestyle you mentioned seems glamorous from afar, but it can be a whole 'nother thing actually living it. How do I know? I got out of the "corporate world" and started my own business in 1999. I'm fortunate in that my business survived the first several years, unlike several of my friends with similar ventures, and I wouldn't trade my position for the world. But I've seen more often than not where the corporate, 9-to-5 life is just fine for most- they find ways to "experience life" and do the things they've always dreamed of. And the one way they are able to do this is simple: money.
     
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    OP, if you haven't, see Office Space.
     
  16. Ehsan

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    I know there are people who would kill to have a better job, but I'm not complaining about my job. I'm compaining about the way things are run in my industry. This is a fantastic job with fantastic opportunities ahead.

    But I just don't want it anymore. It's not worth pursuing to me. I don't want this lifeSTYLE.

    I want exactly what Jeff wants. If I can complete something in 2 hours why do I have to sit at a desk all day? I won't want to do it in 2 hours when I'm at work.

    Here's something that really ticks me off. We almost exclusively do work with countries abroad. We're in Dubai. We can be incredibly flexible. But because of "image", the policy says that we have to be here at 8am, leave at 5pm and dress formal. This is fine if you're 70 years old (like most people at my workplace) and pass out at 8pm every evening and have never known anything but formal wear at work. But it just makes no sense for everyone else. Instead of sending an email between 8am and 5pm, I could make a phonecall at midnight (for example) during the other company's working hours and get what I want within minutes. Instead we write an email, over-analyze it so that we don't offend them in some obscure way, and wait for a response, which may take upto two weeks. Alternatively, we could call at an appropriate time for THEM, record it if necessary, get what we need and we're done.

    I've also realized that the older people around here have tons of experience but very little education. It serves them well to keep everything "old school" seeing as they come here to retire and do stupid things for a big paycheck.

    Finally, it annoys the ***** out of me that they've instituted a policy where we have to use British standard english. Like recogniSe instead of recognize. This is Dubai, why the hell do we have to all go British? Oh because everyone is British or from a British colony.

    If there's any reason for me to stay here it's spite. Because of the situation with Emmartization (focus on training and promoting UAE nationals) I will be in a position to be their boss in 6-7 years. They're so annoyed that the country will do whatever it takes to educate its nationals than they assume we're handed everything on a silver platter - but forget that they are here and getting a giant paycheck because of THEIR nationality. There are WAY more qualified people around.

    You see, I don't care if they live in this world forever. I've just concluded that I don't want to be in it. It's not for me. Spending money is great and I hope I can do a lot of it one day. But it's not at the top of my list anymore.

    If I can (nevermind the details) secure an interest-free loan with payback over 25 years, and business consulting which will be paid for by someone else, do you guys think it's a good idea to start a business in a year or two?
     
  17. Mr. Brightside

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    Starting your own business is great and all, but you have to first figure out how badly you don't want to fail in that pursuit. Think about it.
     
  18. RocketMan Tex

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    Working in the corporate world isn't for everyone, but neither is working in the public sector, or working for yourself, or even working period.

    The key? Find your own happiness. Not everyone's happiness is the same.
     
  19. Jeff

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    Best post yet.
     
  20. RocketMan Tex

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    Thank you SIR!!! :)
     

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