Being a Control Freak, JVG Leads Rockets to Nowhere

JVG is tuning the ROX players into one dimensional players. The guards became only shooters and the PF's became only rebounders. Head gets open looks to the baskets and he would not drive. none of the guards know how to finish in the fast break, they keep pushing the ball all the way until they get under the rim and then they try to force a lay up.

JVG's fear of being fired is worsening the winning chances for this team. he wants to win now when his conract is expiring, while the team needs to use all its bench to determine who will be its future. it will be quite dissapointing if he trades some of our young talent that has not even gotten a chance to play traded for an expiring big man that will help him get another contract with no long term results for this team.

It is quite mind boggling to me how he does not use his younger players when he is loosing or when he is up by 21 points while he is in a contract year. if he loses the game with everyday players, especially in crunch time it is now expected. but if he was able to save it or make it more exciting with his young talent, then he will get the credit of bringing this young talent to Houston and will be given another chance to work more with this young talent.

He now owns the talent on this team whether he likes it or not, and this will either take him up to another contact or down to a commentator job in some TV channel.

 

Good Note-

all over the league we always get surprised by some no name rookie players that have great games aginst us, why could't our rookies do the same to other teams. how is Berry a better player than Novac or how is Udrih a better player than VSPAN and how is Butler or Horry better player than Wells in his current condition? you can a least prove it to us JVG. if the coach is waiting for an easy game to play his young talent, then dream on because his every day coaching and talent he is using will keep any high school team playing against us in the game until the last minute and then when you have an injury and you really need to use these younger players he will come up with a negative remark about how the youngsters are not prepared enough and that is is going to take time and maybe they will get traded for some more prepared players closing on collecting Social Security.

 

Just like Kenny Smith is being unfair to blame Yao for Tmac's early shooting slump, it is unfair to totally blame JVG for the loss!

Fact 1: Yao had 8 turn overs the whole game, folded in 4th quarter (steal by Chauncy and block by Rasheed at critical time and shot 1/5)!

Fact 2: TMac commited stupid foul and did not play in 3rd quarter and invisible in 4th quarter;

If the two super star on the team perform so poorly in the 4th quater, then they should be first in line to take the fire!

On the other hand, JVG's play calling sure is sucks... when your team is shooting 25% beyond the arc, at least you want to give Novak a chance!! WTF you draft him? Is it not for situation like last night??!!!

 

Exactamundo !!

 

IMO, here is the problem with Van gundy:
1. his eqo. way bigger than the teams; he will and does uhurt the team to protect his ego. i.e. Anderson, Wells, Francis, etc. he treats professional players like children. If they disagree with them, no matter waht is gonna happen to the team they WILL not play. bascially he puts HIMSELF ahea of the team. NOt a good trait for a coach.
2. he may be a great staretegist and the "hardest working coachh" in the NBA, but he is not a good tactician. he CAN not and will not adjust during the game, no matter what happens out there, and how bad the team collapses. that is why the team starts well in games ( they are well prepared) but it does poorly late in games ( the other coach adjusts and JVG sticks with the plan). He is basically being outcoached. ala Dallas sereis in 2004, and almost every game this season.
3. he suffocates players. they all become robots or puppets. they don't look like they enjoy the game anymore. Rudy used to bring in underachiver's and make them contribute ( sleepy floyd, chucky( power forward in 95 forgot his last name), EArl Cureton, charles Jones) because he was a players coach, JVG brings in talent and suffocates them.
anyway, that is my take on this guy.
4. and i hate how he publicly calls out his playes and embares them, Francis, Wells, Anderson, etc,etc. that is not how you gain respect and loyalty from you rplayers.
Rumsfeld finally got fired, its time for JVG to go to.

 

I am a Chinese buddy. Hope rocket has a nice season. Yao makes a great success for rocket with his teammates.

 

Usually when a coach sucks, key players rebel against the coaching.

That's not happening here. Yao, T-mac and everyone else are standing behind their coach. They know they got a good one.

If JVG is good enough for Yao and T-mac, he's good enough for me.

Case closed.

 

I dind not know you are a Rockets insider who knows what is going on in Yais Head...ridiculous

 

but the case is not closed. Yao will never openly complain or rebel against the coach. Gundy probably knows it too. if Yao wanted to he probably could have had him fired long ago.

if "good enough" is what we've been getting and what we're seeing right now, then i want "so much more than good enough." (okay that was cheesy)

 

What next, do I re-resurrect the I hate Gundy Club?

Let me ask all of you one question: Do you still see Dallas as a threat in the playoffs?

I think the common answer to the question would be yes. Dallas could get their team back together and be a real contender for the west, the problem is the race is way too close to call right now.

If this can be said of Dallas, why can't it be said of us? San Antonio does consistently well, but usually suffers injuries in the playoffs. They always follow that pattern. The Clippers, well, they are the love child of God and Satan, that’s why whatever good finds them, bad follows. KB24 and the Lakers look impressive, but, we are still dealing with Kobe Bryant here, I don't care what he calls himself now or changes his number to. Phoenix has redefined the art of choking, in fact there are people in the sex industry who are keeping close tabs on the new and innovative ways Phoenix is developing in choking. Who else is there to consider? Sacramento, more like Suckramento? The Grizzles? Who?

In the midst of all this mediocrity and consistency, we find a team with raw talent and sheer unpredictability. We don't follow their patterns, and its hard to watch a team like that, a team that can almost beat San Antonio but get decimated by the Piss-tons. A true Rockets fan will look past this, look past the coach, look past the team, and understand the balance of power will be shifted. We are the only team in the league that doesn't follow their pattern, we are the only team in the league with a true center, we are the only team in the league to watch, to love, to be a part of.

JVG is not the reason we aren't number one in the West right now, and sure as hell if we were number one in the west, ya'al wouldn't be giving him credit for it either. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.

The Alan Show

 

think about why we play great in first 3 q, and bad in 4th q.

In first 3q we can score, hit open shot, spread the court, everyone can score.

In 4th q, focuse too much on yao and tmac, others can not score, can ont hit open shot, they put all D on Yao and tmac, that's why we lose.

Jvg, need to put Novak or/and vspan in and try to hit 3s to open the space or let vspan D or drive to rim.....

Stuber jvg even not give a try when no one can score in 4th q. stupid Jeff.

JVG sucks.

 

you just doesn't throw away Bonzi and bench V-span and Novak when we clearly need deep bench players.
When we have hayes you may have a reason.
JVG really sucks, he needs to learn how to gather everyone

 

JVG really sucks!!! The talents of Novak, VSpan, Wells are going down the drain because of the decisions JVG is making. Other rookies are contributing well with their respective teams, why can't our rookies do the same? JVG lacks trust and is not a risk taker, and is afraid to get out of his comfort zone. I wish we could trade coaches before JVG trades our young talents.

 

agree on the risk taker part... u need to come outta ur shell jeff

 

Jon Barry has no D and doesn't contribute much else other than his 3-point shooting.

Jon Barry, along with other veterans, can make mistake after mistake and suck for a qtr without being pulled.

Rookies like Novak will be pulled if he doesn't do much in 5 minutes or make a couple of mistakes. Oh, wait, Novak doesn't make any mistake and won't be pulled, because he doesn't get a chance to make mistakes, nor contribute.

JVG hates rookies, the same mistake a rookie makes is twice damaging than done by a veteran.

JVG figured out a way to avoid damage*2 rookie mistakes: keep the rookie's butts on the bench while watching the veterans damage*1 mistakes over and over, even though they are essentially the same mistakes.







Fact: Spanoulis is a turnover factory.

Fact: Spanoulis has a broken shot.

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The players might not go out and say JVG sucks especially if they are not natural born leaders such as TMAC and YAO. However, one of them has already said i am retiring after my contract expired when he will be only 30 years old and the other is too nice to say anything about anyone even when shaq and others continue to through darts at him.

 

You know I was thinking about something....

Lets say the Rocks/Gundy start doing EVERYTHING the Haters wanted, does that mean he will get the credit? Or should the Haters take that credit and then say Gundy has the team winning because he listened to the Haters who are actually better coaches than he will ever be? That the Haters would coach the team if they had the chance to leave their day jobs?

I wonder...

 

This thread is killing me....

Some of you guys go on like your could be an NBA coach in this league. If that was the case what the heck are you doing here on the BBS? The NBA would chew you up and spit you out like an old wad of chewing tabaco.

Here's a thought, let the coach do his job and you just be a supporting fan. Its ok to get passionate about the games but the way some of you go on is a bit much.

 

For two reasons I disagree with you:

1. Generally, everybody should have the right to express his opions on each possible topic, even on JVG, as long as he is not insulted. JVG is not God!

2. Each fan is simultaneously a customer of the respective franchise: You buy expensive tickets for a match, you buy jerseys etc. This is an important reason, why the franchise should always have an open ear for the fan base.

 

Ever heard on mature, constructive criticism? That's much different than the childish, unhelpful 'xxx Sucks' that is so common around here.

This is our team. No team is perfect. This organization strives mightily to win a championship. Not all appear to.

I'm elated we have this team and this management. If people are working hard within it and trying to improve I give them credit. If they're not a team guy or not willing to work (Bonzi?), then they're not really a part of the team and deserve all they get.

Yeah yeah... we've heard this before. As fickle and shortsighted as many on this board are, do we really want it determining the direction of the team?

Developing a team and players requires patience, which is something sorely lacking here. Last year Head had a good start, then hit the rookie wall and most wanted him traded. Well how's he looking now? And everyone wants to throw VSpan and Novak to the wolves. As soon as they have a bad game or two in a row, they will get branded a 'bust' and every new thread will want them traded.

It's time for many around here to use their heads and grow up. This team is trying to improve and posters here should make a modest attempt to do likewise.