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Beijing Authorities to Ban Blacks and Mongolians from Bars During Olympics

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. MFW

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    Really? Let's see, there are 150 million Chinese that uses the internet. And that's out of 1.4 billion. So we've already eliminated over 89% of them. Of them, how many of them do you think uses Sina?

    So in other words, at least 89% of Chinese DON'T use Sina as a source of news. Do you get that, BUDDY?

    Of course, I'm not saying this because I have anything against Sina, since they are quite a bit more accurate than CNN, BBC and the likes when it comes to news in China.

    Oh oh oh, here it comes again, Ottomaton with his moronic brainwashed Chinese line. Always a good argument if there ever was one.
     
  2. MFW

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    Sweet Lou, I only got two things I need to say to you:

    1. When you make an allegation, the onus is on you to prove it.
    2. You are a moron, and that is a statement of a fact.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    you didn't call him pathetic ~ rather pathetic of you to forget, my fine foreign friend.
     
  4. MFW

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    Actually Sammy, if I look up a dictionary for the word pathetic, your picture would be right there.

    Can I call him Sammy instead? After all, I did get called boring for overusing the word. I'll learn to use it synonym from now on.
     
  5. yuantian

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    don't get too worked up dude. :D there are trolls, and then there are CF trolls. :p
     
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  7. SamFisher

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    and here's what happens when I loook up MFW
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  8. BMoney

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    See, the notion that "crackdowns" where people are beaten and arrested without cause is standard operating procedure for a government is repellent. It's wrong when it is done in black communities in the US. It's wrong when it's done to anybody, anywhere.
     
  9. tinman

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    Rodney King would never happen in China
    Cause the dude with the video camera would get beaten down like stepchild by Five-o
     
  10. yuantian

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    god, read the whole thing. i never said beating people is right.
    my point is, black people didn't get picked out and beat up because of their skin. everybody gets beaten in crackdowns. so the only thing you can say is police brutality, you can't say it's racism. some people on this board were trying to make this a race issue when it's not. that's my point.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    but there wasn't any reports of people other than black skin getting beaten up. That's a very disturbing sign.

    I am not sure it's only police brutality when the police are given the license to act without any kinda of review or oversight. If the police go to far, the gov't needs to come down and investigate - and correct.

    There has been no report of this whatsoever, and no response from the PRC. Doing nothing about it is a type of muted implicit support.

    This should cause an uproar not here or internationally - but in China. Because regardless of the veracity - a single report still demands a serious response.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm still reading through this thread but wanted to comment on this.

    Actually there are some Malaysian and Indian Singaporeans who complain about racism. Singapore also has given special treatment to foreigners both in the past and present. How do you think they managed to attract so much investment.
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    Except for the possibility of writing a salacious story to move newspapers.

    To be fair though you seem upset that other posters are questioning your motives,

    It seems to me that in this case you're not applying a courtesy to others that you are asking for yourself.

    Have you considered the possibility that this article could be wrong? You are condemning others for not having an open mind but given what seems a rather fantastic story with fairly flimsy evidence doesn't it seem like skepticism is warranted?

    As much as you've criticized the PRC defenders for jumping to conclusions it seems like you are jumping to the conclusion that the article is true.
     
  14. JustWannaChill

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    There is also the possibility that Bigfoot does exist.

    And there is also the possibility that Bigfoot is holding a camera to take a picture of you and then run away before you can take a picture of him.

    And then, there is the possibility that Bigfoot's hobby is collecting pictures of you.

    By the way, we have an island in the middle of the Sahara Desert. Are you interested in making investment? We can work out an excellent deal for you.
     
  15. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Would the South China Morning Post risk it's legitimacy as a credible paper by publishing something so reckless? Because that is what you are suggesting.

    Furthermore, these are the only instances of reported instances of discrimination against blacks:

    http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2008/07/is-china-discriminating-agains-000900.php

    So there are actually 3 reports of discrimination against blacks, not one, and frankly I find it hard to believe that 3 seperate papers would report salacious stories.

    To compare the likelihood of these reports being true to the existence of bigfoot???? I mean, I just don't buy it. sure there's some doubt but when you add in reports that only those of dark skin were targeted in crack downs and a long history of racism against blacks by not only Chinese but Koreans as well - it does led a lot more believability to this article.

    If China truly wants to show that it is indeed a progressive country that doesn't practice discrimination against minorities (and honestly, i laugh at the thought of this) then why doesn't it open up it's borders to the international press.

    People complain why aren't there more stories - because it's China!
     
  16. BMoney

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    So when "everybody gets beaten" it is ok? That's a horrible society. A crackdown society is detestable. I was responding to the "they were asking for it" comment you made. Nobody deserves to be beaten up by the police, right?
     
  17. Tom Bombadillo

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    What the hell, How ignorant are you?
     
  18. JustWannaChill

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    Why didn't you post the article? Let me help you.

    Oh, perhaps you found something in it that you don't like. Looks like you are relying on the tactic of deceiving now. And for that I mean just pick out the portion of a source that you can use to help your case but try to hide the portions that are unfavorable to your argument and hopefully the other posters won't click the link to find out about it.

    Did you say before that...
    And this article says...

    Why you would find something to debunk your own fallacy claim is beyond me.

    And what 3 reports that you mentioned? I see different reports which talked about the story made up by the SCMP reporter. So if there are another 100 news source which talk about that fake story, you take it to mean that there are another 100 reports to support the fake story? I thought you were smarter than that. Clearly I was wrong.

    Oh, have you made a decision on that island in the middle of the Sahara Desert yet? It's a once in a lifetime investment opportunity. Don't wait.
     
  19. JustWannaChill

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    Where did he say it's ok? Don't try to put words in other people's mouth. That's low. If you can read, his point is that people got beaten up is wrong but it's not related to racism. So can you read?
     
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    I think he's talking about the crackdown story and the reports of charging Africans double. The only report I find credible is the one on the crackdown, which has multiple named sources. Of course, that story has had more time to develop, so we'll see what happens to the others. I do agree with judoka that skepticism is warranted.
     

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