This explains why you are tested911 and I could be called testedwaytoomanytimesandgladImadeitto marriagewithoutcatchingsomething.
Glad someone said sex shouldn't be taken lightly; I agree with you that it should mean something and should really only be for married relationships. I don't like the statement about punishing those who divorce, though. Sometimes you're just in a screwed up situation and have to get out of it. (I mean, your physical life may not be threatened, but the rest of it is.) Everything doesn't work out perfectly for everybody, just because it did for you. I don't mind telling everyone that I waited for marriage and to this day have only done that with one person. Looks like it didn't work out, still, but what I would rather do is save myself for the next person and then be very careful about making sure I'm actually getting a decent husband and not just settling. It's not like you have to be having sex all the time. Especially from the female perspective, you can be used (unfortunately even in marriage, if it's a bad one) and I would want to make sure it wasn't like that again.
I actually agree sex is taken lightly/for granted. That doesn't mean I won't try to be with every woman that lets me... My real problem is the comment on punishing everyone who is divorced. Every circumstance is different, but just because your divorced, doesn't mean your life is over or you're any less of a person. Sometimes these things are un-avoidable and yes, there are consequences, but it's better, IMHO, to be happy, than un-happy. Granted, it may be viewed as divorce is an easy way out, but in some cases, (e.g. Isabel, myself, etc.), its the best alternative. Btw, if it were up to me, I'd probably still be married, albeit, unhappily.
It isn't like getting a divorce is cheap. Try going through a nice little custody battle and tell me that it isn't expensive.
Consenting adults. Other people's business is other people's business. Has been and will always be. I do not judge or dictate other people sex mores. (I can say that since I do not have an underaged daughter ) 'nuf said. BTW it appears that I and nyquil82 have found a subject we agree on. It is all good.
I didn't haven't waited for marriage, and the first chick i had a serious relationship with who I thought I might marry I left back in Europe.
Sorry. I not only took plenty pre-med and anatomy/physiology to know better, but I know better. btw- I was 23, and my wife was 20 when we got married...notice, I was honest to vote in #4 as well.
My wife and I lost our virginity with each other at ages 20 (her) & 19 (me), stayed together, and married 4 years later.
35 never been married....have had a decent sex life. If waiting until marrage is important to someone then that is what they should do, but I don't nessasarily think of that as "the ideal" or a morally superior position.
Ha ha ha ha... so was my dad. He lived (more like crashed at times) in SF in a house 3 doors down from the Dead.
Looking at this thread made me feel a lot better, atleast i know i wont be going to Hell alone. thanks guys
I practically lived at Allen's Landing when the 13th Floor Elevators were the house band at the Love Street Light Circus, and I've seen a poster that says, "Now Appearing at San Francisco's Avalon Ballroom! The 13th Floor Elevators!" Below, in small print, "With the Grateful Dead." Good times.
