1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[BDL] Dwyer's take on PGs ...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by echu888, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. dharocks

    dharocks Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2003
    Messages:
    9,032
    Likes Received:
    1,969
    AB's basically Jason Terry in Jet's early Atlanta days (except possibly more of a defensive liability due to his size). His ranking is a bit low, but not egregiously so.
     
  2. declan32001

    declan32001 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2002
    Messages:
    2,455
    Likes Received:
    17
    I stopped reading this thread after 5 pages because DD is clearly off his meds, and tends to make any thread not worth reading. So I don't know if this has been said:

    The one thing I had a problem with KD's comments about AB was the amount of 3's he jacked up last year. He did say he'll take less this year with Yao back, but that's the first lazy bit of writing I've ever see from KD because he knows Aaron had to jack them up.

    Hell, half of Ariza's horrible shots I didn't mind because the offense often looked so discombobulated. Our scoring mostly came from hustle, long-range j's and the heart of Scola.

    I'm very glad AB won MIP, but how can you believe in vast improvement when last season was all about next season?

    In terms of ranking I'd put AB slightly higher. As for Kyle, well for a back-up pg, a #30 ranking doesn't suck. His contract speaks volumes.

    I just don't have a problem with KD's article.
     
    1 person likes this.
  3. albuster

    albuster Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,907
    Likes Received:
    492
    They also had Kobe, Duncan, Dream and MJ. Brooks is just over rated here in Houston. Let us see if he has learned to make the entry pass to the post, run the fast break, and just plain old pass!!!
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,582
    Likes Received:
    33,574
    Sorry, not my intention at all.

    Exactly, it was his role.

    I expect other areas of his game to improve, as he plays with better players. More than anything a PG needs better players around him to really shine, Brooks may not score as much, but I expect the offense to be run much more smoothly.

    Me either, he is trying to generate clicks, that is what ranking articles do, because they are 100% subjective.

    DD
     
  5. JCDenton

    JCDenton Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    261
    I've taken the time to update my own signature with a more relevant comparison.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,582
    Likes Received:
    33,574
    Well statmaster, you need to go back to work, Chase was 21 when he put up those stats.

    ;)

    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lTxm__usZJg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lTxm__usZJg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

    DD
     
  7. ryano2009

    ryano2009 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    7,627
    Likes Received:
    5,002
    So Mike Conely and Jrue Holdiar are better than Lowry..?
     
  8. JCDenton

    JCDenton Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    261
    I am fairly sure that Chase turned 22 before the conclusion of the season, as his birthday was well before the playoffs concluded. So the relevant comparison is to the season during which Kobe also turned 22. Or are you of the opinion that a few months is all that is separating these two players?
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,582
    Likes Received:
    33,574
    STRIKE TWO !!!

    Chase's birthday:

    May 22, 1988

    End of season:

    April 14, 2010

    Evidential link in my sig.

    DD
     
  10. JCDenton

    JCDenton Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    261

    The season doesn't end until the Finals trophy is handed out. It isn't Kobe's fault that Chase was sitting at home.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,582
    Likes Received:
    33,574
    Back on topic:

    Aaron Brooks is the best option the Rockets have at the point, he is a guy that defenses have to account for, Lowry is awesome as a change of pace off the bench guy.

    But I have said it many times, I don't think they keep both, one will eventually be traded.

    DD
     
  12. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    59,081
    Likes Received:
    36,711
    Wow, thanks for posting this, DaDakota, the BBS has been lacking your ad nauseum reiteration of your opinion on this matter for a long time.

    Minutes, maybe even hours.

    Can you give us your thoughts on Adelman now? Budinger? Maybe some words on Von Wafer?
     
    1 person likes this.
  13. JCDenton

    JCDenton Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    261

    You need to sign up for his twitter to get the latest updates. Or if you want to pay the $29.99 per year for a DaDakota Gold Account, you will get his personal newsletter delivered to you via email daily.
     
    1 person likes this.
  14. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    21,668
    Likes Received:
    10,588

    Wow!!! DD and SF have 68K and 29K post respectively. I remember when 10K was a lot.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    Of course this has nothing to do with the thread. More like back off topic.
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,582
    Likes Received:
    33,574
    I do have to many for sure.....

    I just can't believe that folks can not recall Calvin Murphy, he is the Rockets all time assist leader and was a SG/PG for the Rockets years ago.

    Sometimes, you don't need a traditional playmaker, this Rockets team needs AB's game, they don't have another playmaker on the floor that is also a threat to score.

    AB is crucial to this team's offensive success.....

    Needs to work on his D, but so does everyone after last season.

    Kelly swung and missed on this one, big time.

    DD

    PS. YoYo, plenty of DDingleberry evidence on this very page. ;)
     
  17. dharocks

    dharocks Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2003
    Messages:
    9,032
    Likes Received:
    1,969
    For an additional $1.99 you can upgrade to Platinum and have unlimited access to the JCDenton Player Performance Graphing Service, it's a steal really.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    How many rings did Calvin Murphy win?
     
  19. Ashes

    Ashes Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2007
    Messages:
    2,787
    Likes Received:
    75
    There is no way Brooks is a top 10 PG in the NBA. Take off the homer glasses guys. :(
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,582
    Likes Received:
    33,574
    When talking about individual players, citing number of rings is not all that valid an argument, I mean Jack Haley and Adam Morrison have rings, are they better than Calvin Murphy?

    I believe that the best you can hope for as a GM is to put your team in the mix, and hopefully things gel for the team and they get over the top, it is nearly impossible to be Miami and have 3 superstars drop into your lap, so you do the best you can to upgrade your roster and go from there.

    This team, if Yao is healthy and things go well, is a top 3 team in the conference, that is pretty good, and if things go well they could win a championship, as fans, what else can we expect?

    If you don't get lucky and get a Dream, or Kobe, or someone like that in the draft, you just have to keep trying to get one through trade, and those are uber hard to come by....

    We got Tmac, and took that shot, but it didn't work out, still we tried.....

    This team is close......if things break their way, healthwise......and that is the best they can do at this point.

    DD
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now