BCS turns into BS.

look your right on colorado but theyve got to be thinking to themselves a team we smashed is playing for the roses while were not, granted if we wouldnt taken care of business after fla lost, were there and im sorry about the way i phrased the entrance to the post, but i think its a joke, just like crouch winning the heisman, mckinnie or roy williams of OU are more deserving in my opinion

But i find it hard to believe neb deserves to go more than oregon, illinois etc and we need a playoff

 

Nebraska also played Oklahoma in Lincoln. Big difference. Also, Colorado is a better team than Oklahoma. In the Big 12 regular season, Colorado beat Nebraska by 26. Texas beat Colorado by 34. Yes, it was in Austin, and Texas did lose by 2 in the Big XII championship, but that's essentially postseason action, something Nebraska wasn't good enough to get to. So the CU regular season comparison is just as valid as yours involving Oklahoma. Texas won their division of the Big XII, Nebraska did not.

Also, do you really think that a slightly better strength of schedule should outweigh losing by 26 in your biggest and final game of the season?

 

Colorado had the 2nd hardest schedule in the country. Nebraska's was 14th.

I think Oregon should have made it.

 

What does the NCAA have against a playoff system?

 

time and money right now 50 teams get to play in 25 bowl games now if they were to go to just a playoff system they would not be able to include that many teams. So why not just take it down to 8 or 12 teams? because fans and alumni of those other 42 or 38 schools love going to the bowl games.

 

cat- so the loss to a unranked Fresno State team at home means nothing? If the Buffs win that game, they are in the RB and were not even discussing this.

 

Also, Colorado backed out of a game @ Washington State (9-2) originally scheduled for 9/15.

If CU opts to play the game instead of taking a bye, we're not having this discussion.

Washington State is a much better team than TCU, and a CU win would have put them in the Rose Bowl. However, Barnett was afraid his team would lose.

Oregon has a legitimate gripe. I don't believe anyone else does.

 

CU has earned my respect over the last three weeks, but I think reality will strike on Jan. 1 vs. Oregon.

I wouldn't count out a split national title. Nebraska is steamed about their loss to CU and should come out fired up. Miami did show some weakness vs. VT but that could be explained by it being a rivalry game. I guess NU's weakness can be explained by a rivalry game too.

If CU runs over Oregon, then I would put CU as Big 12 preseason # 1 and top 5 in the nation next year.

 

Whether we like it or not, when you lose does matter in college football. If you're number one in the nation, and you lose your first game but win out, you'll be up there in the end. If you're number one in the nation, and you lose you're last game, you'll probably fall behind other one loss teams, and possibly some two loss teams...that's the way it's always been.

CU lost to a very good FSU team in August, all because they made one stupid mistake-throwing into the end zone while inside the 10 yard line in the last few minutes of the game. All they needed was a field goal. They also had some trouble with OSU, and got demolished by UT in one of the toughest places to play in the last few years. They demolished the number one or two team in the nation 62-36.

NU had a hard time early in the year against TCU and a team, Troy St., in its first year of I-A football. They also had trouble with Tech at home (without help from the officials, may have lost that game). They also got blown out in their last game 62-36, and didn't even have a chance to win their conference championship. They also beat OU, the number 3 team at the time, at home.

Oregon lost in overtime to a pretty damn good Stanford team. They won the Pac-10 and that was their only loss of the season, even though they did have some trouble with WSU, Utah State (I think), and barely beat UCLA.

Now, I personally believe that CU should be in the Rose Bowl. I'm not saying I'm right, that's just what I believe. Something in my gut tells me that if you lose your last game 36-62, you shouldn't be rewarded by playing in the Rose Bowl. I'm also a little biased towards CU, away from the Ducks, because they beat UT...I admit that.

My point is, to say that there is no argument for CU is just plain ignorant. There is a very good case. One you may not agree with, and that's fine, but you can't tell me that they don't have a case, just like I can't tell you that NU or Oregon doesn't have a case...it's just not true. Sure, they should've taken care of business, but NU and Oregon should've too. If NU would've won out, you wouldn't be hearing the b****ing from CU fans.

 

I would also like to remind people that if CU wins their bowl game, they would have just as many wins over top 5 teams in a span of a little bit over a month than Mack Brown has over top 10 teams <B>EVER</B>.

 

On Nebraska being the #3 team in the big 12.

Nebraska, Texas, and Colorado finished the Big 12 regular season with one loss.

Colorado was 1-1 head to head
UT was 1-0
and Nebraska 0-1.

If you rate Big 12 teams on Conference regular season games, Nebraska is #3.

If you look at the the championship game, Nebraska wasn't there, they are number three.


As far as polls go, they are not #3 in the Big12, but I'll go with what happens on the field over what the polls say.

Its real easy and sad for me to say Colorado played the best football in the big 12 this year.

 

Top 4 in the Big 12

Colorado 1-1 (2 regular season losses)
Nebraska 1-1
OU 1-1 (2 conference losses)
UT 1-1

Colorado played the best football down the stretch, but they had 2 losses. A 2 loss team should not play for the MNC.

Although Nebraska is playing in the Rose Bowl, they should not win the whole MNC. The title should be split with Oregon (if the Ducks beat CU). CU should not get a piece of the title - goes back to Fresno State. If CU wanted a MNC that bad they would have scheduled Washington State to help their strength of schedule. They can only blame themselves.

 

Oregon lost to Stanford at home in mid-season, not in the early season. Oregon could have easily lost to FOUR teams who didn't make it to ANY BOWL--including 1 to a team without its best player--and simply because their kicker missed with no time remaining (note: the kick wasn't blocked or anything, you can't really credit Oregon for the miss). Oregon also almost lost 2 other times. In short, they got involved in 7 nailbiters that could go either way, they were darned lucky to come away with 1 loss. Considering their whole season, they were certainly a lot closer to having 3 loss season than they were undefeated season. Further, you would be hard pressed to find any decent team Oregon handled easily (even unimpressive victories against Utah, Utah State and Arizona State). I am sorry, but Nebraska had a far more impressive resume playing in a tougher conference--which is why the computers had them ranked higher. It is interesting the only rankings that have Oregon #2 is based on popularity.

As for CU versus NU, they both had 1 terrible outing. Both were on the road to quality opponents where they didn't bring their "A" game and got walloped. Both teams also had quality victories, though none on the road. NU playing at home gave top 10 OU its first loss in 2 years, CU edged Texas on a neutrel cite and pounded the Huskers at home. CU also had overall the tougher schedule. CU would have been the clear edge so far, except for 1 thing--the loss to Fresno AT HOME. In short, CU had two bad games resulting in L's, one loss just as bad as NU's, advantage for the whole resume--Nebraska. Had the Buffs won either the game at Texas or at home versus Fresno, they would have the best argument. But they didn't do it and I think it would be unfair to throwout the first 1/2 of the season simply because they are hot now. The team with the overall best resume should get it.

What is forgotten in this is Nebraska got in because the teams that had chance to present a clearly more compelling total resume after their walloping in Colorado--Florida, OU, Texas & Tennessee, blew it. NU was unbelievably lucky, but they simply had the best case of the teams remaining. I am not a big Husher fan by any stretch, but it would have been a shame and a sham if a few coaches manipulating their votes got them out of the Rose Bowl.

 

Yep. That's bull****.

 

huh? he may have won the heisman this year, but he still wasnt in the top 2 i think. Bryant McKinnie and Roy Williams(OU) are WAYYY more deserving, even though they aren't quarterbacks.

 

Here's an intereting "what if"

Nebraska barely beats Miami
Oregon beats CU easily.

NEB/ORE split champions or no?


PS Im not saying this will happen, so I don't need any "that'll never happen" posts. What I'm saying is that if it did, would we see split national champions or would Oregon just be SOL?

 

I think Scar pretty much ended all debate here...

Anyway, why isn't anyone complaining about Illinois getting shafted? Why Oregon and not Illinois? They both have 1 loss, and their schedule strength is almost identical. Illinois deserves as much consideration as Oregon or CU.

Nebraska's schedule strength is where they win out. Strength of schedule is the single most important aspect of these rankings. All you have to do is look at BYU to see that.

 

Colorado had a higher strength of schedule than Nebraska.