[BCS NC Game] #1 Oklahoma Sooners vs. #2 Florida Gators

Also, Harris pushed his leg into Tebow's neck after a tackle earlier in the game. Any trash-talking was well deserved.

 

I think so, yes. I don't think anyone on the planet considered Ohio State a national title contender - they did with OU. If you had an 8 team playoff, Ohio State wouldn't have remotely been under consideration. They actually moved *up* 2 spots by losing their bowl game, and their only win over a ranked team is #24 Michigan State. Ohio State ended where they were because of their name. Take Tech for example - a tougher schedule, a better record, better wins, better losses, but ranked at #12.

That, I agree with. I think even after the bowl games, you have four teams that would deserve to be in a playoff and could all be the best team in the country - USC, Texas, Florida, and Utah. Before the bowls, you add Penn State, OU, Tech, and Alabama.

But I would point out, while a playoff doesn't necessarily end with the best team winning the national title either - the hottest team, certainly. But look at the NFL last year. The Giants were 10-6 and a wildcard team. I don't think anyone would have argued they were anywhere close to the best team over the course of the whole season. But they were the hottest at the end of the year. Playoffs are good for adding entertainment and getting to decide things at the end of the year on the field, but they don't necessarily result in the best team winning any more than college football's absurd method.

 

Ohio State against USC had no Beanie Wells and a more limited/lot less Terrelle Pryor (save for the 4th quarter where most of his offense came from). That's basically a different team on offense.

The absence of Wells speaks for itself, the guy is one of the best backs in the country and pretty much carried them in the first half. As for the QBs, If you noticed, Texas got a great pass rush all night long but they had to tackle Pryor which is not simple. If that were Boeckman in there there would have been multiple sacks & holds, etc (and in fact they did sack him, with a 3 man rush on the 2d to last play of the game.)

 

He also clapped after UF scored a TD.

And was cheering and did the gator chop when the game was pretty much decided late in the game ...

That kid has isssues....

 

My voice is shot, barely got any sleep...some thoughts.

I don't like the media slobbering on anyone either, but you have to admit Tebow is as clutch as it gets. He's done it repeatedly, and if you've watched the Gators you know he's at his best in the final quarter.

Thank goodness Harvin played. We could survive Bama w/out him, but clearly we needed him last night. Harvin's 60 (I think?) yard run was the crucial momentum changer. We immediately answered back after the OK TD. I think we could've blown the Bama game wide open if Harvin had played.

DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Credit to the Sooners defense too. I literally haven't seen a more horrible half of offense out of Florida this year.

Just a theory, but I think we would've seen a high scoring game that most expected if both teams didn't have AN ENTIRE MONTH OFF.

Really odd ref calls. Granted I didn't get to hear much of the announcers (probably a good thing), but this game was stopped so many times, much of it for nothing. Good job on missing that incredible cheap shot on Harvin though. That guy should've been ejected. Purposely trying to injure someone? Classless.

Cheers to Urban. Say what you will, his track record is officially off the charts. I'm so happy that he ended up in Gainesville.

I know some here will never be convinced that Tebow or the Gators are good, Sooners choked, that we're overrated, unimpressive...but then to turn around and say how Texas would dominate us when those same Longhorns struggled against an Ohio State team that everyone here thought was mediocre all season? I just don't get the logic. The majority of the posters here are pretty reasonable, but a small number of you need to take the blinders off. Who actually knows what would happen between UT and UF? But neither side should be so cocky.

And as glad as I am that we are the champions (hello Freddie Mercury), we definitely need a playoff. I've always believed a final four would be good, but this season convinced me that an elite eight playoff is ideal. End this anarchy once and for all.

EDIT: One more thing...while the SEC had a dip this year, many teams are poised to come back much stronger next season. Our chances to repeat (with Tebow) will be unlikely. But that's why we play the games.

Have at it. Many posters have been reasonable, but a few are still so blind w/ homerism I can't stomach revisiting this thread. I'll just respond ahead of time...IT'S GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!

 

My thoughts after watching OU blow up in another BCS title game.

1) Tim Tebow is the new Matt Leinart - The media and commentators will hold his ball in a gold cup if they have to. He is know officially TOP 5 All-Time according to FOX Sports commentators. The lovefest was so pathetic that it made me laugh. Don't get me wrong Tebow had an amazing game and his leadership and passion can be clearly seen on the field and in the sidelines. God bless this kid with great things in the future. However, he has become a instant media romance and its hard not to laugh at the amount of goodie praises thrown his way. Sorry it may be sound biased but Vince Young;s Rose Bowl performance is still by far the greatest by an individual in any national championship game. That was epic, legendary and will rarely be ever seen again.

2) Oklahoma - Should be punished with a mandatory suspension from BCS games for atleast 5 years. Come on 5th straight loss in a BCS? That puts a smile on Ohio State, knowing that they arent the biggest flops of BCS title games. Seriously this is karma coming back and biting you for your pathetic running up the score against OSU in late games for style points. You should not be playing in this game to begin with.

 

OU is a college football dynasty in developing countries.

 

Two things -

1. Ohio State's defense gave up 35 pts to USC's offense. USC's defense has shut virtually everyone down. Having the new and improved OSU offense may have helped, but they still would have been blown out.

2. The original poster wasn't just referring to the USC game. He was saying that this OSU team would "pummel" Penn State - their game against PSU happened in late October with both Prior and Wells. And they lost with Penn State having to use their backup QB. So unless this was a whole different team than OSU had in their 9th game of the season, this whole "OSU is better than they were" thing doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

If only you spent 20 minutes with Tim Tebow, it would change your life.

 

I'd rather spend that 20 minutes with his girl, I don't know about life but we could definitely change positions throughout...

 

i apologize if this has been posted...

what do ou and pot have in common?

they both get smoked in bowls.

ha.

 

1.The new and improved tOSU offense would have made a difference if you factor in way fewer 3 and outs and an effective ball-controlling run game that they lacked agaisnt USC....and for the record it's not like Colt & Co. had trouble moving the ball against the Buckeyes, and in fact put up more yards than SC did, they just had some red zone breakdowns and a few drive-killer plays.

2. Big deal - sometimes you go out and lose.....just like sometimes you go to Corvallis or Lubbock and lose. That doesn't mean that tOSU wasn't a much more effective offense with a rested Beanie who was healthy (for a half at least) and a rapidly improving pryor.

 

In honor of Sam Bradford, the paper Heisman.

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I didn't take the time to search this entire thread...sorry if it's a repeat.

 

Yes, we put up more yards - in many more plays and by having to play for 4 full quarters. USC was up 35-3 in the 3rd quarter and were trying to run clock. Both teams were trying to increase the pace in our game. USC averaged more yards per play on the offensive play they did run.

I don't see the relevance here. PSU beat this improved OSU team. PSU got slaughtered by USC. OSU got slaughtered by USC. Where on earth is the evidence that this OSU team would somehow be competitive with USC?

It certainly possible. Just as it's possible North Texas could be competitive with USC as well. Until they play, there's no way to truly know. But all the evidence we have suggests otherwise.

 

No, I was pretty much talking about all the leaping around and screaming, but yes I liked that he stuck up for his teammate.

As for the tight end notion, that makes a lot of sense. I wonder if he's locked into seeing himself as a QB?

 

We don't have much evidence other than "the team that beat the team" transitive stuff- by that trail of evidence, Oregon State is in the mix.

All I'm saying is that it's not at all "ridiculous" as you put it to say that tOSU was way different with Boeckman as the FT starter and no Beanie, like they were in September. It's pretty obvious that they were.

 

Just as it's possible that Oregon State could be competitive with USC? You speak of them reverently, and state that the presence of a big-time RB wouldn't have effected the outcome of their Ohio State game greatly, but Jacquizz Rodgers ran for 186 yards on them in the very next game.

 

actually, it was a mere 5 minutes. and it wouldn't just change your life, it would make you a better person. if i hadn't heard it with my own ears, i'd never believe he said it. i'm not sure how he got it out with a straight face.

 

i think usc's performance against arizona ended any questions about whether they were the best and florida's game against ole miss ended any questions they were the best.

through all the 45-35 argument, people kept telling Texas fans that it was the whole season that counted, you couldn't just look at one game. and now it seems that at the end of the season when determining rankings, popular opinion is that only game matters, the one where Texas didn't blow out ohio state.

florida beats ou by the same margin and in almost the exact same way (close game in 4th, take 3 point lead, stop sooners, take 10 points lead, stop sooners and run out clock) and their claim is solidified but we don't belong in the conversation. they beat alabama, a team with a mediocre qb, a strong running game and nice defense and we beat ohio state with mostly the same credentials, they beat georgia we beat oklahoma state and missouri. we both lost to similarly ranked teams, except we lost on the road and they at home.

i'm not seeing how us not beating ohio state by enough is the only game that counts now. any more than not beating arizona (or michigan or new mexico in Utah's case) by enough should count. or any more than losing on the road or to a barely ranked team should count. somehow Texas's whole season has been reduced to one game now.