Lets see. orlando he had Farrity Vaughn Armstrong Washed up kemp Brurke A s his supporting cast . he took a pistons team to seven games that went on to demolish and SWEEP the lakers with KOBE, karl malone, gary payton and shaq. In houston his supporting casts have included juwan howard David wesely Jon barry Bobby jackson Ryan Bowen And other scrubs over the years. last season we were missiung yao, rafer for the first games and landry was not fit. yet despite all that, he managed to lift his game on one knee and shoulder to average 27 points 8 boards 7 assists .
According to Basketball Reference he's not... but you might be right. Afterall, PER stats put Shawn Kemp ahead of Clyde Drexler.
Nah, he's 0-3, just slipped my mind that our most recent playoff disappointment didn't include him, because he was injured.
Players don't have playoff records... teams do. You can't make statements like player x is n-for-n in the playoffs. That makes no sense in a team sport.
Which I was just going to make my next point. Yao would be 0-3 only because he didn't play, but then I suggest that he should be 0-4 because he was still part of the team. However, one would argue that we would've won if Yao had played, but if one argues that, then one must also accept that T-Mac would've been 1-6.
That Kemp guy used to be a pretty good player before the drugs and cheeseburgers got the better of him... As for McGrady's 0-7 --> he had home court advantage just the 1 time right? And (iirc) that 1 time Yao didn't even play, right? The stats don't tell the story, but they start to paint the picture. He stepped up his game - but still lost - clearly something else happened and you can't just lump the blame on him (unless we lose in the first round this year, with no injuries and having had the home court advantage, then it's all TMac's fault!!
That's an interesting question. I don't have BBR's full database at my disposal, but using the top 100 lists for career regular season PPG (min. 500 games) and career playoff PER (min. 16 games) I compiled the following list of greatest increase from regular season to playoffs for players represented in both lists: Code: [I]rnk player RegSeason Playoffs Diff[/I] 1 Connie Hawkins 18.7 25.0 +6.3 [B]2 Tracy McGrady 22.4 28.5 +6.1 3 Hakeem Olajuwon 21.8 25.9 +4.1[/B] 4 Michael Jordan 30.1 33.4 +3.3 5 Dirk Nowitzki 22.4 25.3 +2.9 6 Alex English 21.5 24.4 +2.9 7 Rick Barry 24.8 27.3 +2.5 8 Reggie Miller 18.2 20.6 +2.4 9 Jerry West 27.0 29.1 +2.1 10 Vince Carter 23.8 25.9 +2.1 There are those two Rockets showing up again. Actually, I think I included ABA stuff in there as well. When you only consider NBA, it's Tracy and Hakeem as #1 and #2, and by a fairly large margin too. Edit: Ok, I got rid of the ABA stuff, and also lowered the min. games for regular season to 300. I also decided to add another column, diff/36min, which takes the difference in points scored per 36 minutes. Lots of times, star players just play a ton more minutes in the playoffs, so their increase in PPG can be a bit deceptive. Now I get the following: Code: rnk player RegSeason Playoffs Diff Diff/36min [B]1 Tracy McGrady 22.4 28.5 +6.1 +1.3[/B] 2 Amare Stoudemire 21.0 25.1 +4.1 +1.8 [B]3 Hakeem Olajuwon 21.8 25.9 +4.1 +1.6[/B] 4 Michael Jordan 30.1 33.4 +3.3 +0.5 5 Dirk Nowitzki 22.4 25.3 +2.9 -0.5 6 Alex English 21.5 24.4 +2.9 +0.3 7 Reggie Miller 18.2 20.6 +2.4 +1.0 8 Jerry West 27.0 29.1 +2.1 +0.6 [B]9 Yao Ming 19.0 21.1 +2.1 +0.7[/B] 10 Vince Carter 23.8 25.9 +2.1 -0.6 Uh oh, Amare sneaks ahead of Hakeem. Maybe I should tweak that min. regular season games again . At least Yao is on the list now.
KG had 1st round exit from 96~03. So it will be T-mac's turn to advance this year. and get the Champion
MJ is #1 and hes been very successful, the stats arent always true but Im guessing there is normally a correlation of stepping up in the playoffs and winning?
Whats your point? Hakeem never beat Michael Jordan in the finals during his prime either. Clearly his championships mean nothing *cough* your blowing alot of crap. Its like saying Stockton and Malone are crap players cause they are one of the best duos ever and couldn't even scratch and claw their way to a championship. At the end of the day things happened and McGrady isn't out of the first round and neither is Yao Ming. Its certainly not one of their fault completely but they share the blame. Your statements are pathetic, its like you saying you wouldn't want to go to war with Yao Ming either given he'll probably bail and call for the medic half the time. Same statement same problem your hating is getting old.
thx durvasa. maybe last time i checked TMac didn't qualify with enough games, or his diff hadn't jumped yet. It's safe to say that Amare will drop off that pt differential.
Maybe we should see Mcgrady's teammates stats in the playoff. I really really hope that we can get past the 1st round and then all the way to the final coz we will be brimming with confidence
If somebody actually takes the time to research this in depth and present the statistics, it will likely become immediately apparent that the performance of McGrady's teammates is the main reason he has never made it out of the 1st round. All the statistics point to McGrady being one of the greatest postseason players of all-time. He has simply never had enough talent around him. Yao is a stud but the rest of the players have mostly been scrubs, especially on those Orlando teams. That is not the case this season. If healthy, this team should make a deep playoff run.
It does if you're antisonic. He checks all his logic/deductive reasoning skills at the door when entering a discussion about McGrady.
