I get confused. Is it the masons or the illuminati? Actually maybe tigermission is right - those ARE a lot of Jewy sounding names.
Seems to me like the BBC is always trying to spin anything that happes with the US and Israel in a negative manner. There probably are disagreements, but I doubt there is a "crisis."
Agreed, I don't think it is a "crisis", but more of a serious disagreement. They will work something out. The media always attempts to sensationalize the news as much as they can. But what's new?
I make my living off the evening news Just give me something-something I can use People love it when you lose, They love dirty laundry Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here I just have to look good, I don’t have to be clear Come and whisper in my ear Give us dirty laundry Kick ’em when they’re up Kick ’em when they’re down Kick ’em when they’re up Kick ’em when they’re down Kick ’em when they’re up Kick ’em when they’re down Kick ’em when they’re up Kick ’em all around We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who Comes on at five She can tell you ’bout the plane crash with a gleam In her eye It’s interesting when people die- Give us dirty laundry Can we film the operation? Is the head dead yet? You know, the boys in the newsroom got a Running bet Get the widow on the set! We need dirty laundry You don’t really need to find out what’s going on You don’t really want to know just how far it’s gone Just leave well enough alone Eat your dirty laundry Kick ’em when they’re up Kick ’em when they’re down Kick ’em when they’re up Kick ’em when they’re down Kick ’em when they’re up Kick ’em when they’re down Kick ’em when they’re stiff Kick ’em all around Dirty little secrets Dirty little lies We got our dirty little fingers in everybody’s pie We love to cut you down to size We love dirty laundry We can do the innuendo We can dance and sing When it’s said and done we haven’t told you a thing We all know that crap is king Give us dirty laundry!
What are you talking about? Jews have been exploiting Christians and Muslims alike for thousands of years. tiggermission makes a good point that the Jews have pretty much taken over foreign policy. Just look at their last names for christ's sake.
The talk about Jewish conspiracy controlling things is ridiculous. First of all it assumes that all jews have a monolithic agenda. Of course that is far from the truth. As far as the crisis goes there isn't one, but maybe there should be. They have run an apartheid like state for many years, and are currently finding every excuse in the book not to follow their agreement in the roadmap to peace, and Bush never calls them on it. It is time for him to say that he is tired of excuses and wants results. Stop expanding settlements, pull out of Gaza, and start working toward pulling out of significant portions of the west bank. Next work toward ending laws that discriminate and aren't based on national defense. Egypt, the U.S. and Israel worked together before as partners in peace. It is time to form some new partnerships and get people working towards a goal here. But no more excuses, just results.
I never said "Jews" are taking over the world or anything rediculous like that, I simply pointed out a FACT (and an undeniable FACT) that hardline Zionists DO have a lot of power in the Bush administration, which is understandable since the neoconservatives are very much a pro-Israel group. Just so you know, a "Jew" and an "Israeli" and a "Zionist" are three completely different things. You have heard of Christian Zionists, right? You do know that a significant number of Jews reject the Zionist state (not the Jewish state) of Israel, right? So don't twist what I said, although I can't say I am surprised.
He can't call them on it. The Jews have some kinda mind control machine they use on him. Once the 'witzs got close after 9/11 it was all over. And what makes you say all Jews don't have the same agenda (or at least MOST Jews as there are converts etc)? Care to provide a link?
What administration hasn't supported Israel, dork. Neoconservatives support Israel because they're democratic, not because they're Jewish. Zi·on·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (z-nzm) n. A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel. To proclaim that neoconservatives are 'hardline zionists' is misleading at best. Their ultimate goal does not revolve around the well being of Israel, although that is a subset. Whatever. Found a good site for you - www.jewwatch.com - so you can keep up with their latest conspiracies etc.
As I said before my sarcasm broke after some of the things in this forum that people were serious about but were still jokes I was fairly sure you were joking in your first post about the subject but when you came back with another reply along the same lines to my post, I had to ask for confirmation.
I've always thought it would be a good idea for the US to cut off foreign aid to both Israel and Egypt. Israel is expending a lot of resources to build and defend settlements in the occupied territories without US aid its unlikely that the Israeli economy can sustain holding onto far flung settlements and so they will eventually withdraw. At the same time its an open secret that the Israelis have nukes so no Arab country or coalition of Arab countries in their right minds will attack Israel because that will mean their own destruction. Without the US propping Israel up they will have a greater incentive to return to approximately 1967 borders as that will be the most defensible and also they won't have to worry about controlling a large amount of Palestinians. In turn the other Arab countries will back down after awhile since even they have said that if Israel returns to 1967 borders they would officially declare peace. For the Egyptians us removing aid that will mean we are no longer supporting the authoritarian Mubarak regime which likely will be overthrown initially by an Islamic movement. While this initially will be bad for us in the long run we will see a movement towards democratization sort of like what was going on in Iran before Bush started poking them with a diplomatic stick. Even though we might lose two allies this might go along way towards stealing the thunder of the radical Islamicist and Arab nationalists. Since we are no longer supporting Israel that removes that excuse and since we are no longer supporting the anti-Muslim and authoritarian Mubarak regime that removes another excuse.
