Dada is probably beside himself because he probably secretly agrees. He could never admit that though.
Leeb wants him for Shane, I want him for Tmac.....but both of us want him.......he would make this team a WHOLE LOT better. Nah...I will role with the young, quick legs of Budinger....this is a year of growth..... DD
yep tonighti s where battier and ariza's lack of offense really stood out. dallas dared them to try and beat them 1 on 1.
I don't think Morey shares your enthusiasm for Camby. He has stated that Camby's stats are misleading and that he obtains those stats at the peril of his team. I don't remember how he explained it exactly but he definitely said something along those lines. I, personally, want Anthony Randolph. Just trade Anderson straight up. Nellie LOVES shooting/no defense big men. I also think we really could use Tmac if he's up to it. We have no other true SG in the lineup except Taylor (who sucks). Also, Morey always said that Battier and Ariza playing together doesn't work so good. Battier is destined to come off the bench sometime this season one way or another.
The problem with leebigez's repeatedly proposed Camby-Battier swap is that the Clippers, like the Rockets, have the opportunity to bring in a major free agent next summer. But unlike the Rockets, the Clippers have more cap room AND can sign a major player without affecting its core of Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Al Thornton, Blake Griffin and Chris Kaman. For the Clips to jeopardize a chance to make a run at a major free agent, just so that they could have Shane Battier . . . I just don't see it. DD, as for your proposed T-Mac/Camby deal, who would the Clips be throwing in to make the salaries match?
Besides we don't have enough cap room even if Battier is traded for an expiring contract. I'd like this kid on our team but he's untouchable. One of them definitely needs to be benched sometime and I think it would be Battier.
1) the reason AB can't do much when he's doubled, esp. at the top of the key, is b/c he's too short. he can only pass to the nearest guy (tracy, on the other hand, can use his 6'8 frame and zip it to either a battier 3 at the corner or scola/hayes at the basket). that's why i believe having tmac and AB together would be extremely lethal. you have AB who can break ankles, and you have tracy who can create plays to anyone on the floor. when tracy does become a playmaker, AB can score like a machine. 2) to defend ariza, he didn't go 1-on-1 that much tonight. when he did, it was beyond awful. i think he had like 3-4 turnovers on just like 5 1-on-1 plays (that splitting the double team was a disaster waiting to happen). however, ariza had been doing well b/c he had been an opportunistic scorer (slash off of passes, curls around screens--he didn't do that even once tonight, fast breaks...). tonight, he simply was a shane battier 2. he just STOOD AROUND at the 3pt line for the most part. that's unacceptable in this type of offense, esp. when you only have one ballhandler. move your freakin' body around to give AB or lowry some damn options. however, he's still learning and hopefully he is learning. tonight, ariza's performance was an F offensively. 3)shane battier needs either tracy or yao ming. his type of shot is the corner 3. yao can give him that off of the double in the post, and tracy can give him that all day. shane will benefit a lot when tracy returns. we should not rely on him for offense. if we do, we're in trouble as we were tonight (we went to him for like 3 straight possessions and i just sat back scratching my head) ariza and battier are NOT redundant. ariza has the capabilities to be more (not playmaker, but he can be much more of an offensive threat than just a standstill shooter). that's why we have been so good offensively. when ariza makes himself into shane, we're going to suck offensively. when tracy returns, shane has to go to the bench. he should only play a lot when we need him to guard the elite scorers. PS - shane has definitely lost a step defensively. usually v. kobe, he forces kobe out further. last game, kobe parked in the post and got position similar to yao usually does. that's just terrible. tonight, shane was just destroyed on D.
forgot to add a note about chase. all chase did tonight was bring the ball up and pass it to lowry (which anyone can basically do). we don't just need that type of ballhandler. like ariza, chase can dribble and penetrate off of a pass well, but not as an isolation like AB had to at times when we were bogged down. that's why morey is still looking for that star playmaker (that may be tracy or whoever). it'll relieve a ton of pressure off of brooks (he was lethal tonight early b/c he simply looked to score score score; he looked like an all-star scorer).
tracy is arguably the 2nd best playmaker outside of the PG position (after lebron of course). he would have tore up the mavs defense tonight if they guarded AB like they did in the 2nd quarter.
Lebron's passes are sharp but Tracy at his best those passes were incredibly graceful to watch. Terrific.
Bima, your problem is the failure to think objectively when shane is involved and the crazy thought the clippers will ever make a play for a bigtime free agent or that one will consider the clippers. The only big time free agent I can ever remember them getting was baron and that's because he's a la kid. Now if u count mobley as big time, so be it.
Nellie has outright dissed the young man calling him the laziest rookie he ever saw. Also, whenever possible he outright will not play him. The only reason he is getting any playing time right now is because he is short on big men. Honestly, also Anderson and Cook may suck for us, but for Golden State they may be perfect.
It's hard for Battier to create anything other than havoc for his own team when he just camps out in the corner. Although it's dwindling and declining, he needs to go while he still has some value. There is nothing to be gained by hanging on to a depreciating asset. Camby is great idea, but I would approach teams like the Warriors and Trailblazers that are probably going to be unable to retain all the young talent that they have and see what I can get for Shane.
What did I say after last game? AB gets trapped too easily at the top of the key, this is gonna be a HUGE problem, just as Yao being fronted was. AB is too small and gets pressured too easily, if he can't pass out of those traps then we need to start Lowry or bring T-mac back fast (if T-mac is even healthy..) Oh well, this was not unexpected, this team is finally falling back to earth after overachieving the past few games. And yes, Battier is absolutely terrible when he doesn't contribute that 10~15 points we NEED from him. When his shots are falling, he's the type of player you love, when his shots aren't, you question if just 'intangibles' are enough. But it's sad a 6'8" forward's entire offensive game is based on open jumpshots, when your shot isn't falling, find other ways to score or be effective! Battier was a sterling -24 tonite. Does the guy who created the +36 Battier topic want to comment on that? I hope this proves you can't base everything on +/-.
That is because Ariza TRIES to score. Battier expects penetration by a guard, to dish out the ball back to him for the most-likely open three.
Huh? Battier suddenly makes teams into title contenders, and the Clippers no less? People are seriously overrating Battier here. Back on topic, it's no secret we're gonna struggle without a second creator, I mean we are missing our 2 stars who usually create opportunities for the role players. Even Artest, with his erratic offense, would at times create something out there for somebody.
