You know theres alot of 'real' kobe stoppers out there that really dont get recognition like battier Ariza,raja bell, t.outlaw,t.prince,r.allen.......
On that particular play he definitely is being singled out and that's because fans want to argue that he's being stubborn and refusing to try and help offensively, as if he's better at it than most of our players or something. He's not, which is precisely why he's not going to be given touches over Brooks, Martin, Yao, Budinger, Lee, Scola...maybe even Hill. I get complaining about it back when we had no offense and needed everyone to try harder, even if it didnt work out. We had nothing really besides the often injured duo and needed guys to step up, even if it meant becoming players they werent. They dont need that anymore, so we shouldnt be asking for it. It's like a restaurant where you have great cooks who get the job done and you get on the waiter for not learning to cook a little to help out. Unless they're having trouble cooking, why get on him for that? He has other stuff to worry about, especially when the cooks can't wait tables very well.
Bruce bowen developed the head fake step in jumper very late in his career. So basically, youre saying battier doesnt work on his game right? To the op, you have been on here 5 yrs and broke the first rule. Any mention of shane not being perfect is off limits.
So every other player is suppose to read and react, but shanes job is not to do the same right? Gimme a effin break
And how has said headfake jumper affected the history of the Spurs during those years? Some skills are like third nipples, interesting to have but have limited practical application.
If we're going to point out players weaknesses, let's make threads like, "Yao's durability"... "Brook's size"... "Martin's defense". Seriously guys... NBA players aren't perfect either.
you know that's not what i meant...my example wasn't perfect, but im not saying he shouldnt be involved in the offense and just not do anything on that end. He's still part of the team..hes still trying to help the team score, but just like the waiter doesnt have to cook to be part of a dinner service, shane doesnt have to make certain moves for the team to score. There's other things to do within a system to make it work..not every player has to be reacting the same way or in a way that leads them specifically to score.
You're a very good poster when you want to be. If you dont think those 10pts in the finals by bowen were huge, then you werent watching. If shane had that same move, which he used to have, it cause the defense tl closeout with more caution which equals more space and slower rotations. When guys can beat another player off the dribble, it creates a a string effect or scramble drill. Thats what happened vs utah. They would blitz tracy, physical yao and close out of control at luther,shane,and rafer.
rv6, if shane just reated to the offense like he used to when he wasnt so 1 dimensional, there are 12 easy points on the floor.
LeBron, Kobe, Deron, Wade, Durant and some other players I forget are perfect. Carmelo is near perfect as well, but his defense is kinda suspect.
i think that depends on one's definition of perfect...lebron's FTs, durant's passing, and so on can use some work
Yep, becuz they would be layups. Thats why scola is so effective offensively despite being very limited. He runs the floor after every miss. If his defender stops paying attention, he will sneak in and get a layup. If shane would jab hard on his cuts or change speeds off curls, he would score easier baskets and his offensive output wouldnt be so dependant on hitting 3's.
I'm pretty sure Martin's wide open 17 footer is like a layup to him too Scola belongs in the post, so it works if he's constantly around there...but if you put battier there that many times it's taking a big out of the picture, which means they're at a less efficient distance and their man can come down to pick up Battier. I get what you're saying, but i dont believe it's going to work 6 times a game or even half of that. Yes, even 2 times is good, but i rather use those two on someone like yao or lee, who can get the same layup, but also are better at drawing a foul, still finishing, and then hitting their freebie. It just doesnt make sense to devote so many touches for battier, when you have players who can make more of the opportunity. Once here and there certainly helps and that's where he's at now. A cook who always makes 2-3 dishes is always better for business than the one who'll always make 2 out of the same ingredients.
LeBron has serious attitude issues, Kobe is damaged, Durant doesn't affect the game unless he's scoring- no passing, etc. Every player has strengths and weaknesses. The great ones identify and play to their strengths and minimize the effects of their weaknesses.
battier doesnt need more touches. just a counter move to go to when the 3ball isnt falling. a few feet inside the 3pt line is much higher % field goal. and still allows good spacing
