I second this. Everyone might say "He's not ready...he's a rookie" but the Rockets as a team can't do any worse with Bud starting instead of Battier
Isn't it a developmental year? I mean, they're .500 right now and that's a lot better than what most of us thought they would be but they are also letting the younger guys get experience. Budinger isn't a one-trick pony like Novak so there shouldn't be much of a loss out there. If the Rockets are going to try to run-n-gun, putting Budinger into the lineup would be ideal.
The only problem is how it would effect the rest of the team.....for instance, you can not put Lowry in there with Battier on the wing, it would limit his effectiveness. Lowry needs Buddinger and Landry to run with him so he can be an effective PG...otherwise he struggles because he is not a good finisher, and needs finisthers around him. It would help the starters a lot....right now we have only AB that can create, and honestly AB is the only true offensive threat on the starters. Ariza takes a lot of shots but if I were the opponent that is EXACTLY what I would want to have happen....the guy is just NOT a good shooter....when moving. If he is set, he hits, but if he dribbles, he struggles...no check that, he sucks on the dribble.....worse than Luther Head.....it is embarissingly bad to be honest. Ariza and Battier are the same types of players, good defense, good set shooters, neither creators.....neither all that efficient as scorers. If not start Budinger, I would certainly get him in there a lot earlier.....last night over 7 minutes without scoring....CBud would have been in after 4 minutes just to shake things loose. DD
Starting Budinger might hurt Lowry and the second unit but Adelman should be able to change the rotation to offset for Budinger's addition to the starting lineup In fact, the top 3 5-player combination has Budinger along with both reserves and starters For example (and this is just an example): Start Brooks Budinger Ariza Scola Hayes Second unit: Lowry Budinger Battier Landry Andersen Followed by: Lowry Brooks Ariza Landry Andersen
This is what i've said many times and i'm not saying you didn't agree, but when you carry the torch, you tend to be blinded. I've seen you say many times about how having tracy would stunt development, but i've never heard you talk about how shane will. Its clear to anyone with eyes that shane is basically a 0 on offense and chase should be playing and maybe even starting in front of him. I don't care about how many games they lose, because like you say, its about growth and pushing the limits of the younger players. Thats also why i say we can do both by trading shane for camby to at least gives us something in the middle while devoping ariza,chase,landry,and brooks. The rockets still will play hard and camby is also a good leader, good defender, and great passer from the elbow and high post. Not to mention it would give the rockets the upper leg on resigning him next yr to backup yao. Adelman is loyal to his guys and has never been known to just pull a guy, plus shane will have 2 or 3 games like this, then he will have a 12 pt game and posters are talking about how great he is again. I guess we will see, but there is a huge diffference when a guy like chase comes in and how the offense picks up. Its hard to play when u have 2 zeroes on offense starting.
which is precisely why these threads are as annoying as the tmac ones...they pop up every other day, then fizzle out because front office doesnt share the same view, only for the cycle to start again a day or two later...
the problem is trading shane for a center and then starting bud...we can't have a rookie in that situation almost full time. This year he may get a pass for being inconsistent since he'd still be more consistent than trevor and shane, but next year with a healthy team, he's going to get crucified on here and benched on the court if he doesn't bring it every night. That's why this "trade for a center" talk needs to end, if anything trade shane for scoring wing, definitely not a center. Problem is, the team needs to figure out what to do about tmac before making such a move, which is why these threads are pointless, its not gonna happen soon, maybe not even this year. The tmac situation is a higher priority and how that turns out will affect what happens with battier.
I think the problem is that since Battier has been on the rockets, he has always had a definite superstar with him to pull some of the attention off. With Yao, that low post presence, Battier received so many open shots. It would go something like this. Brooks/Alston would pass ball down low to Yao. Yao would get doubled by PG's man. Yao would pass to brooks and when Battier's man in the corner would get him...easy pass for the three. I went to last night's game and Battier was never open. With Tmac, battier has no guy besides ariza who can efficiently penetrate to the basket. We all know Tmac is a better passer than ariza. Tmac penetrates and dishes out. We need tmac for battier to be effective.
People were on tony parker hard alot because of his inconsistent play early during title runs. People were on rondo 2 yrs ago and house was closing alot of games or pierce. Young guys struggle and hopefully gain from it. Guys like battier is inconsistent also and don't have the high reward and get criticized too.Go look at his performance on the road in the playoffs last yr and for every yr.
I've seen Shane play aggressive offensively, albeit rarely, and when he does look for his own shot and drive to the basket, he's a lot more effective than when he adopts a pass-first, run to the corner mentality. He actually has an array of shots that he seems to be reluctant to use. It blows my mind that someone with that ability doesn't see it as a opportunity to show the team why he's a co-captain and try to score more. Shane is one of the most intelligent and level-headed players I've seen, so I think he just needs a bit more diva in him, then he'll start looking for his own shot.
somehow i dont think bud will ever be in the class of those two guys. They also had guys like TD and garnett around them, not to mention two other stars around those guys. We're not in that situation to assume we'll get by with Budinger starting. the point i was making had nothing to do with comparing battier and budinger. My point was trading shane for a center takes away depth at the wing spot and leaves you starting a rookie. Yes, both are inconsistent, but if you have both you can play either depending on how they're doing (which adelman doesn't do anyway), but if you're down to bud, ariza, and JT, that's a bad swingman rotation. You have a lot inconsistency AND inexperience now. That's why i think tmac's situation must be sorted out first and probably will be.
I certainly didn't say anything like that and you quoted my post so I'm assuming that you're saying I've made a mention of this?
i quoted you to reply to what you said, but i wasn't refering to you about the trade talk, i was talking about it in general, that that type of talk should stop, that's what the OP suggested and what others have throughout the season, im sorry if that wasn't clear.
This isn't Duke or Kentucky and Chuck/Shane are players who play awesome D and hustle. However, in the NBA you need players who can also put the rock in the hoop. Chuck/Shane defenders are resting on Defense, when their defenders should expend energy.
CBud needs to start knocking down some freakin shots. Until he can consistently score 15 pts a night he doesn't need 32 minutes a game. He can't defend worth a flip, not that he won't be able to but he can't right now. I'm all for developing the young guys, but not at the expense of winning what games we can in what looks to be a tough season already.
