Battier for Rudy Gay/Stromile is not paying dividends

not to mention we actually would have the option of trading away Tmac for a nice player or two if we want to.

 

I like Battier and all, but the more I see Rudy play, the more I think this kid is going to be a stud.

 

I miss Brandon Roy, he's playing so well that we should all cuss out loud....



F*** JVG.

 

Frankly, I'm tired of intangibles. Wins are tangible.

 

I watched the game by the way. Rudy was drilling shots from outside, taking his man off the dribble, shooting mid range jumpers, posting his man up, making steals and driving all the way for a dunk, facing double teams in second half and dominating in the fourth quarter....

And he did this while letting Mike Miller dominate the ball too.

Surerly, Rockets couldn't use all of that! All that talent would not have worked with him playing alongside Tmac, maybe Mike Miller but definitely not Tmac

Battier apologists, keep digging for new absurd excuses for the next 10+ years of Rudy's career...

 

we traded gay for battier thinking we would win a chip that year. unfortunately we didn't, and didn't the next year, and arent going to this year, so every year we exit the playoffs rudy gay is looking better and better.

 

Let me put it this way....

What do you use a glue for?

To join 2 or more pieces together.

When Rockets gave up Rudy, they got the glue, but they gave up what needed to be glued to the team.

Now Rockets have...whatever they have, with a layer of glue on the outside drying up.

It's called...Getting Exposed!


Jerry West's sales pitch to Gundy and the Rockets for Shane Battier...

 

that was morey's trade for better or worse...he didnt think would be a good nba player...cd co signed the move, but this was morey's trade

 

You are fooling yourself if you think Gundy didn't want Battier. Gundy was so fond of Battier, it's not even worth debating.

In any case, if Gundy was interested in talent, he would not have cost us Brandon Roy in the first place. So, by the time it came to the point where Rockets could have nabbed Rudy, what they did, didn't come off as too much of a surprise.

 

Anyone who doesn't think that Rudy wouldn't help the Rockets offense because there's already "not enough shots" for Yao and McGrady are kidding themselves. With such a versatile and athletic threat, Rudy would make things so much easier for everyone.

 

Man, Im agreeing with you on a post!

What's next, will I start to like Wafer?

NOT!

 

I still think its funny how we gave up such a valuable player for a mediocre guy. Memphis should of given us a LOT more.

The only reason we didn't stay with Gay is because the Rockets wanted to "Win Now". Well we AREN'T WINNING, and it only took a year for Gay to breakout which was pretty obvious it was going to happen. All we need is a third scorer and Rudy Gay, the young athletic beast, could really help right now instead of Battier.

Its all bull****.

 

About a quarter through year 2, the trade is not looking good for the Rockets. Considering that the Grizzlies don't appear to be any better with Gay than they were a couple years ago (actually, much worse due to an extreme drop off in defense), there is still a question mark on how much he would have helped us. Still, he has qualities that we obvious lack -- scoring, athleticism, ability to thrive in transition.

This is what Jonathan Feigen said about it in in the comments section of his blog today:

 

It was a trade that had JVG's fingerprints all over it, and that's my biggest beef with him as coach. He's too inflexible.

It's also a perfect example of why a coach should never have any influence on drafting or trading players.

Still, it was Les who signed off.

It's on him.

 

According to denniscd, it was mostly Morey's decision. If you want to blame someone for it, blame him. Morey may have pushed for the trade with JVG's coaching style in mind, but I don't think Van Gundy was actively involved in the decision. I'm sure he was happy with it, though.

 

Before the draft JVG mentioned there was maybe two players that could help immediately. I think one of them was then speculated to be Roy.

 

Well I don't think he had much of a choice considering he was just an asst GM at the time and CD was still in charge of making the moves. Plain and simple it was a horrible trade...NEVER TRADE with Jerry West. Remember the Kobe trade he made with New Orleans??? This guy knows talent.

 

Or does anyone remember the trade he made with the Phoenix Suns for Robert Horry shortly after his towel-throwing incident on Coach Danny Ainge? He only gave up just Cedric Ceballos for him, and look at how well he contributed in helping the Lakers win their three championships this decade much like he did in a Rockets uniform.

 

Do you think that's why Yao threw a towel for a tech a few games ago?

 

How anyone would think a 10 ppg non-athlete added to Rafer Alston and Chuck Hayes is a "final piece" defies understanding. Especially given the medical histories attached to Yao and McGrady.

Further...."if" it still pans out? What parallel universe is Feigen living in? I'm expecting that shortly wikipedia will have a picture of Feigen to define the definition of "denial".