what kind of word would replace jerk in your sophisticated dictionary? It wasn't the action at the end that I enjoyed the most, it was Spoiler the unraveling of Harvey Dent, Batman becoming the fall guy, the Joker's final dialogue, etc. But hey, maybe when you get more sophisticated, you should watch it again and see that it wasn't "action upon action."
the lady sitting next to me kept crying after every scene with Heath Ledger. I'm thinking, "unless she knows Ledger personally, she should shut up because she's ruining this for me." I mean come on, he WAS brilliant, but my entire viewing experience could have been more enjoyable if it weren't for miss drama queen "I need everyone to know how important Heath Ledger is to me"
Spoiler if you end after that Joker doesn't get caught...the ferry sequence, which was amazing with Batman taking down all of the SWAT team and freeing the hostages, and then two-face would have never made an appearance. that is the point you were talking about right? The part where Maggie dies and Harvey gets burnt?
Spoiler What happened to the joker again? Refresh my memory, because as I remember it, nothing was resolved in the last 30 minutes of the show to him. The whole 2 face story arch BEGAN after maggie dies. Nolan spends a good 10 minutes of screen time to set up two faces' end game. Pretty stupid. The only meaningful part of the last 30 minutes was when Batmen becomes the dark knight, but all that could have been done within the framework of the last scene when maggie dies, ala Spiderman's voice over type work. But nolan couldn't help himself he had to give us an ill advised 30 more minutes. As far as the joker was concerned, the fantastic scene progression that begins when the woman in the car opens up the letter estabishes the jokers chaos arch. I maintain that nolan simply wanted to give the fan boys some more action. BTW, how did the joker rig those two boats again, he is visiting with two face, he is everywhere all at once.
Spoiler If you think the Two-Face story arc began with the explosion, maybe you aren't as sophisticated as you think.
im confused why people thought it was too much action, if anything it was anything but action, it had its share of action scenes, but it wasn't like a Jet Li/Jackie Chan movie. Spoiler Probably because we saw all the action scenes in the trailers is the reason I feel this way.
Was looking forward to watching the DK tomorrow night (first time) until you compared it to Titanic. A farking chick flick. Why? But in all seriousness, I am hyped reading this thread. must admit i've never seen a Batman movie (although I have been on the ride more than once ) so I appreciate some of the commentary on here because its prepping me for the movie by teaching me some charachter details.
Well that depends, the knuckle dragger, literal moment Spoiler he became two-face was that moment, but the story was set in motion the entire film. Him beating on the scarecrow and flipping the coin, his line at the dinner table, etc.
Spoiler That's what I thought you were going to say, the whole coin flipping. Like I said, he became two face when maggie dies and that puts the vengeance in his heart and sets up two faces end game. Just like I said. But it takes 10 minutes after maggie dies for nolan to show how the white knight could become a vengeful two face. That was pretty stupid. Then the joker must be a phantom because it was physically impossible for him to be everywhere he was. But hey, I need plausibility to go along with mindless action.
I compared it to Titanic because it was a big box office film. Biggest of that decade. I'm thinking Dark Knight could be that this decade. That's why.
Spoiler Didn't the hospital scene happen in the last 30 minutes? Good Lord my man, the last 30 minutes had some of the best parts in the movie.
Spoiler Sure, the last 30 minutes had some great revelations. I am not denying that but all of it was stuff that he could have done within the framework of the maggie's death scene. Think about it, in the last 30 minutes Two Face becomes two face and dies, the joker learns that people aren't like him, batman becomes the dark knight and countless other things which were all tied to one long action scene which very few breaks and little to no set up. It was stupid to me.
This movie kind of fooled me. I thought it was over after about 2 hours, but then it continued. I'll not spoil anything by saying anything, but some scenes made it seem like the end of the movie. So I went ahead and finished most of my large icee. It turned out I needed to pee so badly for about half an hour. But overall it's a really good movie.
Spoiler i dont even know what that means, 'within the framework of maggie's death scene.' could you explain what would happen in your version just so we could get a better idea of what your more streamlined story would look like? for me, there's no problem with all of that crap happening in the last 30 minutes, its the magnitude of all this happening in a short time which leads to batman to make the decision he does at the end of the movie. you also exhibit a distinct misunderstanding of harvey dent throughout the movie. nolan didn't just magically transform harvey in 10 minutes after maggie's death. harvey dent has all along stood on the same precipice as batman, and throughout the movie it is unclear whether either of them is willing to take the leap and cross the line by killing in order to fight evil. harvey about to pull the trigger based on a coin toss shows that he was already willing to go farther than batman, even before maggie's death. her actual death was the tipping point that understandably drove dent mad, and there's absolutely no reason why that transformation would require an extended arch, as you appear to pine for in your lament over dent's rapid swing from good to evil, considering that two-face himself is simply the end-point of harvey's story, a story which is developed throughout the movie
