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Batman Begins sequel gets an official name, Ledger confirmed for the Joker

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New Gotham Tonight episode, no Anthony Michael Hall, but the consolation prize is pretty good. Aaron Eckhart and Christian Bale reprise their roles of Harvey Dent and Bruce Wayne.

http://www.gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight.aspx

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I ordered IMAX tickets for this movie for the midnight showing. I can't wait to see this. It's going to be an amazing movie...

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4 new TDK TV Spots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIi1XjO6ajQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=67-poSYpVP0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sktZWzBKuFc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SwEeLJ5UqwY

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Ha ha

Batman- Let her go.

Joker- Ooh, very poor choice of words. (drops Rachel out a window and laughs)

July 18 can't get here fast enough.

I was reading the original thread with the story that broke Ledgers casting and I'm curious if we've seen enough for some people to affirm or change their thoughts on the casting.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=115645

I looked it up because I was trying to see what my initial reaction was to his casting. The only thing I remember is that I was concerned with all the Brokeback Joker type jokes that did happen, but they died down when pics and trailers started coming out.

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Ha ha

Batman- Let her go.

Joker- Ooh, very poor choice of words. (drops Rachel out a window and laughs)

July 18 can't get here fast enough.

I was reading the original thread with the story that broke Ledgers casting and I'm curious if we've seen enough for some people to affirm or change their thoughts on the casting.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=115645

I looked it up because I was trying to see what my initial reaction was to his casting. The only thing I remember is that I was concerned with all the Brokeback Joker type jokes that did happen, but they died down when pics and trailers started coming out.
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Wow, a lot of people didn't like the choice of Ledger for the Joker role. He wasn't my first pick, I thought Hugo Weaving would have been a good choice.

After the trailers and clips, looks like Nolan picked the perfect Joker.

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Wow, a lot of people didn't like the choice of Ledger for the Joker role. He wasn't my first pick, I thought Hugo Weaving would have been a good choice.

After the trailers and clips, looks like Nolan picked the perfect Joker.
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it's just sad you know there's no chance of him reprising his role. going to be a sick movie.

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i'm worried that i'm getting too hyped up and am going to be let down. friggin' july 18th opening after they practically started marketing last year. way too much time to make me wait. ledger's joker performance better come off as good as it has looked in the previews. it seems perfect.

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i'm worried that i'm getting too hyped up and am going to be let down. friggin' july 18th opening after they practically started marketing last year. way too much time to make me wait. ledger's joker performance better come off as good as it has looked in the previews. it seems perfect.
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The swagger the people around the movie have... You won't be disappointed. If they Spiderman3 us then damn.

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The swagger the people around the movie have... You won't be disappointed. If they Spiderman3 us then damn.
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I don't see Batman with an emo haircut strutting down the street... or bat nipples... hopefully.

#209 HAYJON02, Jun 25, 2008
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I ordered IMAX tickets for this movie for the midnight showing. I can't wait to see this. It's going to be an amazing movie...
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bah, i knew i shouldve checked this thread earlier, I checked the website just now at the Edwards Marquee location, midnight showing of the IMAX screening is sold out already, they have a *gasp* 3am showing, but I think I'll just watch a regular showing at midnight and watch it again at Imax the following Sunday

#210 Dave2000, Jun 25, 2008
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Possible first legit review was sent into AICN:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37214

Hey folks, Harry here... On the other side of WALL*E... for me the film I'm geekin' hardest for is THE DARK KNIGHT. I watch the TV spots relentlessly. The new glimpses at Heath's performance are both hearthbreaking & illuminating. And every nuance of that performance feels like a revelation.... and I absolutely can't see a bright star's final burst of light upon the screen. This review avoids major spoilers but does reveal the basic framework - so if you don't like to know a thing... why'd you even click here. The word is... the film is GREAT. You can leave now. But if you can't - nothing major will be destroyed for your virginal screening romp... BTW - most IMAX theaters are selling their midnight screening tickets - I bought my tickets - did you?

Hi Harry and the rest of the crew,

Just after watching The Dark Knight. I see no reviews are online so I
thought Id send you my review.

Ive kept this review as spoiler free as possible as I dont want to
ruin anything like someone did recently with another Christian Bale
movie!!!

Ill start by saying that I was a fan of Batman Begins and am a huge
admirer of Christopher Nolan's body of work. I had my faults with BB
mainly to do with how they shot and edited the fight sequences but
felt it was a great start to a much larger story and I jumped with joy
when Gordan pulled out the Joker card at the end.

The Dark Knight opens with a bank heist sequence that highlights how
the joker is always one step ahead of the criminals he is working with
and the police who are after him. Numerous men break into a bank
controlled by the mob wearing clown masks and comment on how The Joker
has put the whole thing together. This is the catalyst for which the
rest of the events in this movie takes place.

The heist does not go to plan well at least not for all the gang. Its
a great set up and payoff and a unique way of introducing the ace in
TDK'S whole or in this case its Joker.

Heath Ledgers performance of the joker is truly one for the books. A
man of no remorse or morals who simply wants to see things burn. There
is no back story or establishing the character. He is fully formed. He
does have some dialogue scenes that reveal a bit of his background.
Lets just say he has some issues with his father and that smile of his
is rooted in a gesture of love. He is far from a caricature and has
depth . He realises that without Batman he would not be. The Joker is
almost more of a terrorist than criminal. He is not motivated by
money. He wants to see people suffer. Its a damn shame that this was
Heath Ledger's final major performance as it shows a whole different
side to him as a performer and I now know that he was endlessly
talented. To watch him walk away from an exploding hospital dressed as
a nurse is probably my favourite moment Ive seen on film so far this
year. Also look out for when he makes a pencil disappear such a cool
moment! Best supporting Oscar anyone?

Gotham is still engulfed by crime. Falcone's reign as the head of the
mob is over and that seat has been filled by Salvatore Maroni played
by Eric Roberts. What becomes clear is that there are also numerous
other gangs within Gotham. Its no longer just one syndicate. They are
all in some way in cohoots but the arrival of Batman has made it
harder for them to operate.

Batman has inspired the city officials particularly Harvey Dent. The
DA for Gotham city. This is really his story. The rise and fall of the
white knight. He is Bruce Wayne's hope for Gotham City. A hero who
doesn't have to wear a mask. A man who can inspire hope in the masses.
If BB was about fear then TDK is about hope and is relevant in today's
times. Harvey Dent is a good honest man who is willing to bear the
weight of bringing down all the criminals on his shoulders and what
that means for his own life and those he loves. In terms of his
transition to Two Face all I will say is that everything online that
Ive seen is fake. The moment we first see him in hospital when Harvey
Dent asks Gordan what his nickname used to be in Internal Affairs and
Gordan says Harvey Two Face and Harvey turns to him . Such a clever
way of establishing the character. Even down to his double sided coin.
Lets just say Aaron Eckhart puts Tommy Lee Jones to friggin shame!

The film feels more like a crime drama in a grand city scape than a
typical comic book movie. It feels like Heat except Batman is Al
Pacino and The Joker is Robert De Niro and just like in that film we
have a great scene between Heath Ledger and Christian Bale across a
table. There is also an element of a Greek Tragedy.. There is a vast
sense of morality at play within the film.

Dent is trying to bring down the criminals and wants to bring them in
under a RICO charge. To do this he needs Batman's help as he has to
bring in the man who takes care of all their money. A glorified
accountant as Rachel Dawes puts it.Think Al Capones accountant in the
Untouchables. So Batman ventures to Hong Kong. It adds to the idea
that this is very much set in the real world and its not just Gotham
that Batman can access.

This all happens within the first third of the film. The run time is
two and a half hours. It doesn't feel that long as there is so much
going on within the film. Ive always felt Christopher Nolan was able
to handle pacing unlike many movies that are over two hours these
days. This is also his first entirely linear film and he proves
himself to be a gifted storyteller and a master of utilising film as a
visual medium. He fills each frame with so much scope and detail. You
can tell he is enjoying himself with the amount of money he is being
allowed to play with and wants to better himself and the franchise.
Although this movie doesn't feel like an instalment in a franchise.
The best thing I can think of for comparison is The Godfather Part 2.

There is no sign of the Batcave in this film. Although Alfred does
make mention of it saying how he looks forward to it being finished.
Bruce now lives in a pretty sweet penthouse apartment and his new
batcave is in an underground layer in the docks. Bruce and Lucious Fox
have been working on the suit and toys although to my surprise the
Batpod was in BB and nobody spotted it. It'll put a smile on your face
when it makes its introduction.

Christian Bale owns this role. He is Bruce Wayne and he is Batman. He
is also a third character in some regards as there are almost two
sides to Bruce Wayne. The public figure, a playboy billionaire who
knows how to spend his money and the Bruce Wayne behind closed doors
who only Alfred and Rachel get to see. A man covered in bruises and
wounds who desperately wants be free of Batman but is compelled to
make a difference as no one else can. He can play the villain to be
the hero as he does.

The second third focuses on the capturing of The Joker. The city is
living in fear as he makes threats on national television that he
always follows through with. You simple have no idea what he will do
next. There appears to be no reason to his madness although that
proves to not be the case.

I don't really want to give away anymore. I will say there is death
but not in the way some of the fan boys who have watched the trailer
are thinking. There is a prestige moment within the film that is a
true Chris Nolan moment. The scarecrow is in the film but has a very
minor role.

Just go see it on opening day in a room full of fans. Ill be doing the
same and have no doubt Ill enjoy it even more the second time round.

Enjoy.

Tim Bisley
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There was a screening in Burbank yesterday according to some guy at the Superherohype forums. That may have been where the reviewer saw it. There will be a press screening later this week as well, possibly tomorrow.

Yes it happened. A bunch of undeserving knobs saw TDK this week!

It happened in Burbank at the request of an industry big wig in preparation for the marketing onslaught that will accompany TDK. Big wig needs to see the film to do his job effectively. The screening was for someone who will be known as 'The Chin" and his cohorts.

I tried to get information on how it went and the only word I got was; and this is a direct quote:"If you combined the Spiderman, Hulk and Iron Man films, they wouldn't reach up to The Dark Knight's ankles. That's how tall the new Batflick stands next to those aforementioned films." The word masterpiece was thrown around.

Of course, Heath's performance is out of this world but that's no surprise...the real surprise revelation is Aaron Eckart as Harvey Dent. It's a starmaking role. People will be shocked at how good Eckart is in the film. His role is huge.

The Batmobile is destroyed beyond repair and we don't get a new one.

Two-Face shows up only at the very end...and the biggest reveal--Just when you think the movie is finished and the credits are about to roll, everything starts over again. What this means, I don't know but I was told that it was pretty mind-blowing stuff. Very Chris Nolan.
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Cool article from WIRED magazine about how Chris Nolan tries to use as little CGI as possible and talks about the IMAX filming they did for some scenes.
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/hollywood/magazine/16-07/ff_darknight

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Just got my tickets for the 7:00 IMAX showing on Friday, the 18th. This is gonna be life changing.

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The debate at my house now is whether we take our 8 year old son to see it.

I vote FOR it.

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Here's the first official review of The Dark Knight. Got 3.5/4, but it really sounds like a 4/4 review. The reviewer usually only gives Oscar-nominated movies a perfect score. Some may kinda find it spoilerish. It's a glowing review. Here it is...

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight

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The debate at my house now is whether we take our 8 year old son to see it.

I vote FOR it.
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As the ever eccentric overindulging uncle I'm taking a battalion of chalupas with me. Chief among them being my 9 year old niece, my 6 year old nephew, & my 4 year old niece.

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As the ever eccentric overindulging uncle I'm taking a battalion of chalupas with me. Chief among them being my 9 year old niece, my 6 year old nephew, & my 4 year old niece.
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my wife isn't sure...if you knew my 8 year old you'd know there wouldn't be a problem with it. i've been going to the, "but he's seen Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" card.

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These reviews give away too much, but I couldn't help skimming through them. Can't believe all of this hype and it's still 3 weeks away!

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my wife isn't sure...if you knew my 8 year old you'd know there wouldn't be a problem with it. i've been going to the, "but he's seen Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" card.
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My sister let's me and only me take them to certain movies. I'm a bit of a film snob/enthusiast so we chat about the film over some cake. I don't believe in dumbing things down for children so the discussion is typical of the kind I have with friends. The kids respond well.

I find that taking them during the early afternoon avoids nightmares at bedtime. This theory worked during our trip to see Pan's Labrynth.

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I was thinking to see if any interested setting up a little CF Imax gathering for this movie. I'm going to the one off I-10 and the loop with my friends on opening night. This movie will rock especially after watching that 7 minute preview in I am Legend. I went to see that movie just for the preview and man was it awesome. Ledger is the perfect Joker, so many subtleties in his character which he portrays with absolute genius. Bale was already topnotch now Eckhart plays Two-Face like an added bonus. Shaping up to be a legendary picture in the making.

#219 ghettocheeze, Jun 25, 2008
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These reviews give away too much, but I couldn't help skimming through them. Can't believe all of this hype and it's still 3 weeks away!
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Actually I have to give these reviews props for not giving away too much. At least no more than the trailers and TV spots have revealed.

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