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basso on torture

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. SamFisher

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    What if we subject them to a lifetime of transactions transacted solely in Abe Lincoln PENNIES. Want a pack of gum? Hope you're carrying a hundred pennies in your pocket, Muhammed.
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    Here is what is going on. Someone pulled the number '3 times' out of their rear for an op-ed article. This number, of course, is totally randomly assigned. But all the conservative pundits have repeated it like it is gospel fact. Scan the internet and you will find this number repeated 1,000,000 times, but if you try to track it back to any sort of legitimate attributable source, you can't.

    I think they have latched on this number because even though they would never admit it they realize that waterboarding is torture and they need something to assuage their guilt. Specifically, in this instance they rationalize by saying to themselves, “Well it is completely immoral and unjustifiable, but since we only do it rarely we really aren’t that bad.” I don’t think I need to point out the obvious flaws with this type of rationalization, but usually these sorts of defenses work well only when they remain unformed in words.
     
  3. basso

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    it must be a huge number tho, mustn't it, for it to have preoccupied the congress, media, and the democratic party for months?
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    If it is sanctioned by the state and if they assert their will in continuing to sanction, once is too many times.

    Are you finally prepared to say, "Yes, I support waterboarding. But only three times?" Didn't think so.

    Run away now.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    So according to rimrocker, skinny-dipping in cold water is torture. What about Starbucks serving scalding hot coffee to its patrons? TORTURE. What about the weather turning cold in December? TORTURE. What about speaking above the level of an inside voice? TORTURE.

    If the libs had their way, our military would be so neutered that no captive terrorist would be incented to talk. None. They'd just sit back and sip on their non-fat, no whip carmel machiatto and read the New York Times.
     
  6. basso

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    Torture.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    Jorgie Porgie,

    I would be willing to say that none of the above things are torture. Would you be willing to say that waterboarding, as described in Ottoman's post, is torture? What about anal rape? TIA, Rookie.
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    LOL! Torture is so funny I forgot to laugh!

    BTW, I noticed you forgot to answer the fifty or so questions posed to you asking if you support state sanctioned torture. Why so fraidy cat?
     
  9. basso

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    rape is rape, whether of the anal, vaginal, or oral kind.
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    I mentioned anal rape because it was reportedly used at Abu Ghraib. Would you be willing to go on record saying that raping detainees should be considered torture? Or do you consider it an enhanced interrogation technique? And, whatever you decide to call it, do you support it?
     
  11. basso

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    do you have any proof it was used at abu ghraib, or are you just irresponsibly repeating other's speculation?
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Proof being the military's own report?

    From the Taguba Report

     
  13. Batman Jones

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    See FB above.

    What's your damage, dude? Why can't you answer even the simplest questions?
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    What else is Batman going to invent as a torture technique used in Abu Ghraib? Did they serve untoasted Pop Tarts? Did they put on an Ashley Simpson CD? Make them read a Paul Krugman article?

    TORTURE
     
  15. SamFisher

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    *adding basso's comments to the OFFICIAL record.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    And again I will answer your question and you will run away from mine.

    No, none of those things is torture. Is anal rape, Jorge? Or is failing to anally rape a detainee akin to coddling him?
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    Bats, you love to focus attention on your alleged (some lies) torture acts committed by US military personnel. How about thinking for a moment about what the terrorists do to us. They TRY TO KILL US. I have no problem anally tickling a terrorist who tried to kill me, especially if it means saving future lives. None. Look at all the intel they gathered from KSM. You can't sit here and tell me that didn't save lives. You just can't.
     
  18. rhadamanthus

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    Really? Link please.

    Fixed.

    And the answer to said fixed question is: "Correct. We cannot."

    See how easy it is to have the courage of conviction?

    At least TJ admits he supports doing what the terrorists do. Basso?
     
  19. basso

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    what FB described is not anal rape.
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    Please accept my humblest apology. You can call it sodomy if you want. They allegedly stuck stuff up the guys' asses. Do you approve of the state sticking stuff up the asses of detainees as an "enhanced interrogation technique?"
     

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