Well, for me this thread has honestly established something. Something definite, beyond debate. I no longer have any doubt that T_J is someone from the far, fringe left doing a parody of a right wing nutjob. Nobody would use the analogies he's used in this thread, unless he wanted to hurt the administration and its apologists. Water boarding to skinny dipping? Hot coffee? May as well compare crucifiction to a session of acupuncture. Sorry to out you, old buddy, but you're too far to the extreme liberal edge for my tastes. If you were more moderate, I would've kept your secret.