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[basketballvalue] Rockets top units

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  1. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    You can see the data for every 5-man unit used by the Rockets here:

    http://basketballvalue.com/teamunits.php?year=2010-2011&team=HOU

    And below shows where some of the Rockets top used units fall relative to the other most used units around the league. The off, def, and net columns are unadjusted for opponent strength, and APM is adjusted for opponent strength. Take the adjusted ordering with a grain of salt, as you can see the standard errors are large.

    http://basketballvalue.com/topunits.php?year=2010-2011

    The most used lineups that show up here are basically the starting 4 and then either Hayes, Miller, or Hill at C.

    team    unit                                             min   off    def    net   APM  stderr
    DAL     Kidd-Stevenson-Butler-Nowitzki-Chandler          257   121    97     +24   +24    8
    LAL     Fisher-Bryant-Artest-Gasol-Bynum                 217   118    101    +18   +19    9
    BOS     Rondo-Allen-Pierce-Garnett-O'Neal                237   120    99     +20   +19    8
    MIA     Arroyo-Wade-James-Bosh-Anthony                   175   114    95     +19   +17    9
    ATL     Bibby-Crawford-Johnson-Smith-Horford             160   126    109    +17   +17    10
    LAL     Blake-Brown-Barnes-Odom-Gasol                    139   117    94     +23   +16    10
    BOS     Rondo-Allen-Pierce-Davis-Garnett                 223   116    100    +16   +16    8
    DAL     Kidd-Terry-Butler-Nowitzki-Chandler              182   118    101    +16   +14    10
    MIA     Arroyo-Wade-James-Bosh-Ilgauskas                 411   114    102    +12   +11    6
    MEM     Conley-Mayo-Gay-Arthur-Gasol                     129   109    93     +16   +10    10
    LAC     Davis-Gordon-Gomes-Griffin-Jordan                269   121    110    +11   +9     8
    POR     Miller-Roy-Matthews-Aldridge-Camby               190   109    104    +5    +9     9
    MEM     Conley-Allen-Gay-Randolph-Gasol                  151   109    100    +9    +8     10
    IND     Collison-Dunleavy-Granger-McRoberts-Hibbert      240   111    96     +15   +7     8
    <font style="background:yellow; color:black">HOU&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lowry-Martin-Battier-Scola-Hayes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;497&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;116&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6</font>
    LAL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Fisher-Bryant-Artest-Odom-Gasol&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;657&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;116&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;103&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5
    ATL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bibby-Johnson-Smith-Horford-Collins&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;156&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;106&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    PHI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Holiday-Meeks-Iguodala-Brand-Hawes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;261&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;103&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    CHI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rose-Bogans-Deng-Thomas-Boozer&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;192&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;111&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;98&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9
    SAS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;487&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;111&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;103&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6
    PHX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Nash-Richardson-Hill-Turkoglu-Frye&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;158&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;118&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;111&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    <font style="background:yellow; color:black">HOU&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lowry-Martin-Battier-Scola-Miller&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;145&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;111&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;105&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10</font>
    OKC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Westbrook-Sefolosha-Durant-Green-Ibaka&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;238&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;115&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;113&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    NYK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Felton-Fields-Chandler-Gallinari-Stoudemire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;516&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;114&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;109&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5
    WAS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wall-Young-Lewis-Blatche-McGee&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;158&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;111&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;100&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    CHI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rose-Bogans-Deng-Gibson-Noah&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;195&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;103&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9
    DAL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Barea-Terry-Marion-Nowitzki-Haywood&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;228&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;109&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;104&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    CLE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Williams-Gibson-Parker-Jamison-Varejao&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;233&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;101&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;100&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    GSW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Curry-Ellis-Wright-Lee-Biedrins&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;293&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;115&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;106&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7
    NOH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paul-Belinelli-Ariza-West-Okafor&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;748&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;105&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5
    MEM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Conley-Mayo-Gay-Randolph-Gasol&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;318&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;114&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;112&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7
    ORL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Nelson-Richardson-Turkoglu-Bass-Howard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;178&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;105&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;103&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    POR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Miller-Roy-Batum-Aldridge-Camby&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;229&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;114&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;110&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9
    CHA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Augustin-Jackson-Wallace-Diaw-Mohammed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;322&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;105&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;106&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7
    ATL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bibby-Johnson-Williams-Smith-Horford&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;330&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;110&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;105&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7
    OKC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Westbrook-Sefolosha-Durant-Green-Krstic&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;372&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;110&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6
    ORL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Nelson-Carter-Richardson-Lewis-Howard&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;153&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;104&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;102&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    POR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Miller-Matthews-Batum-Aldridge-Camby&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;323&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;109&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;+1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7
    MIN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ridnour-Johnson-Beasley-Love-Milicic&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;253&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;113&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    MEM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Conley-Henry-Gay-Randolph-Gasol&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;232&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;107&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    UTA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Williams-Bell-Kirilenko-Millsap-Jefferson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;686&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;105&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;109&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5
    DEN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Billups-Afflalo-Anthony-Williams-Hilario&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;244&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;101&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;104&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    DET&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Stuckey-Hamilton-Prince-Maxiell-Wallace&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;173&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;106&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;116&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    CLE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Williams-Parker-Graham-Hickson-Varejao&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;140&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;104&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    LAC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bledsoe-Gordon-Aminu-Griffin-Jordan&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;216&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;111&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;114&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8
    <font style="background:yellow; color:black">HOU&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lowry-Martin-Battier-Hill-Scola&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;181&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;101&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;105&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9</font>
    MIL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jennings-Salmons-Mbah&nbsp;a&nbsp;Moute-Gooden-Bogut&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;132&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;104&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;11
    NJN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Harris-Morrow-Outlaw-Humphries-Lopez&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;213&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;103&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;118&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9
    TOR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jack-Derozan-Kleiza-Evans-Bargnani&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;140&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;102&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;110&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10
    WAS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wall-Hinrich-Thornton-Blatche-McGee&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;129&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;96&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;110&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;11
     
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  2. Preston27

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    Can you highlight with a different color? My eyes almost exploded.
     
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    Clutchfans Dark?
     
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    Yea same here.
    I had to highlight the highlighted just to read it.

    Very interesting data though.
     
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    team---min off def net APM stderr
    Hayes--497 116 108 +8 +6 6
    Miller---145 111 105 +6 +4 10
    Hill-----181 101 105 -4 -10 9
     
    #5 jim1961, Jan 25, 2011
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    Interesting...so Hill, as a starter, was killing our offense and had no real impact on our defense. Of course, I'm not sure what possessions looked like between the 5-man squads for more accurate comparisons. But that's what I'm seeing.

    Once we figured out this starting lineup, we really started rolling, didn't we? Since Yao went out, we've been playing .500+ basketball. It kind of makes me feel a bit better about the team.

    I'm not defending our record. I'm just trying to look on the bright side.

    Coach has had a heck of a time trying to figure out winning rotations this year. Seems like every year injuries really hold us back. This year has hurt the most because of expectations entering the season and then 5 games in, the entire system had to re-adjust.
     
    #6 RedDragon01, Jan 25, 2011
  7. durvasa

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    The nice thing about basketballvalue.com is you can get expanded info on each unit, like who they faced and what the results were. So for instance, with Hill and the rest of the starters:

    http://basketballvalue.com/amofunit.php?year=2010-2011&unit=579-77-198-844-674
     
    #7 durvasa, Jan 25, 2011
  8. heypartner

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    Something is odd about that list.

    The team with the best record, SAS, only has one lineup in the list..ranking at #20

    Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan

    Is that list relative to other lineups on the same team?
     
    #8 heypartner, Jan 25, 2011
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    Thanks durvasa.

    This link doesn't work, at least not for me.

    The funny thing is the bench play was supposed to be one of our strengths, so far it has been making the starter's work harder; this is why I was in favor of bringing Lowry off the bench once Brooks got back, for now I don't want that anymore.
     
    #9 gah, Jan 25, 2011
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    Bunch a wusses :p
     
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    That list shows the top 50 most used lineups. The Spurs only have 1 lineup that's played more than 100 minutes this year:

    http://basketballvalue.com/teamunits.php?year=2010-2011&team=SAS

    Popovich uses a lot of different lineup combinations. While the Spurs starters have been solid, he doesn't overly rely on them and the reserves have done great when he's mixed them in.
     
    #11 durvasa, Jan 25, 2011
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    I've been rollin' Clutchfans Dark for a long while. It's the only way. And the color was fine to me.
     
    #12 optAmystik, Jan 25, 2011
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    You can't really say that...have you seen those standard errors? There is not statistical significance between the last two highlighted sections. The first and the last is debatable.
     
    #13 jsmee2000, Jan 25, 2011
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    Also when you watch the games that Hill has started, the first unit pretty much freezes him out of the ball.

    But go ahead get your pitchforks and torches out....

    ;)

    DD
     
    #14 DaDakota, Jan 25, 2011
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    It seems to me that what this team is missing is a star. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm a little surprised that our top unit offensively is with Hayes at the 5. I bet that wouldn't be the case in years past. (only referring to when Yao is injured)

    I think that illustrates how Chucks offensive game has grown. He's no longer a liability on that end of the floor.
     
    #16 moonsh0t, Jan 25, 2011
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    It was obviously the team suffered on both ends when Hayes whent down. Hill simply isn't ready to play starting center yet.

    Defense was just as poor with Miller playing starting center, but the offense doesn't suffer that much.

    Can't believe Chuck becomes so crucial to this team nowadays. Rockets desparately need someone in the middle.
     
    #17 choujie, Jan 25, 2011
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    Look at the Lakers' old starting 5, it's just as good as ours, it should come as no surprise that we took them to 7 games. Then you add a player who isn't as talented as Odom but he is a big interior defender and suddenly they're #2. Defensive big man is all this team needs.
     
    #18 ashishduh, Jan 25, 2011
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    Hill isn't ready to play backup center either. I'll be glad when Miller gets back. The second unit with Miller and Hill playing at the same time was pretty effective earlier in the year.
     
    #19 Rip Van Rocket, Jan 25, 2011
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    Interestingly, Hayes produces better offense and worse defense than Miller. I guess the margin of error makes the differences not that significant.
     
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