He doenst forfeit the attempt, it doesnt constitute as an attempt unless he performs a shooting motion....So if it bounces off his foot he gets it back.
After leaving the player's hand(s), the ball must make contact with the basket ring. Time expires for the end of any period EXCEPTION: If a live ball is in flight, the ball becomes dead when the goal is made, missed or touched by an offensive player. So i would say if it hits the ground it is considered a miss and inturn would not count......For an answer that is 100% accurate you would need the definition of a missed shot.
Hmm...how about this? You shoot full court with a few second left, the ball hits the ground, THEN the buzzer sounds, and the ball goes in. Judging by the "EXCEPTION" up there, it seems it would count because it's in flight and becomes dead only once the goal is made.
Thanks for all of the answers. I think I have a good idea for my questions now. The blocked shot question was bothering me the most, but I guess I was wrong. The answers make sense though and clarifies it. The hooking I guess is a little technical and it's not really pertinent when it comes to pick up games. The dribbling question was definitely referring to not moving the ball in the air persay, but not dribbling directly up and down which I'm pretty sure is legal. As far as the subsequent questions, I think the biggest issue was about the hop step. As far as I know, you have to be making a 2.5 step type layup drive, but instead of the last 1.0 steps you make, you can hop step; the only caveat is that you can't fake, you have to directly go up for the shot. I think Kobe uses this most often. Also, as far as chunking up a shot at the buzzer and it hitting the ground then going in, I think it would count because the ball isn't dead unless an offensive player touches it from my understanding. Thanks again for all the info everyone. Very very quick responses too =)
Agreed.....So, take out the time, can you goaltend a "bounce shot" or is it not considered an attempt after the bounce?
That's a very good point you make. It is goal tending: If the ball is on its way down, no matter who threw it or when, another player cannot impede its way to the basket, but it's up to the officials to determine whether it had a chance to at least hit the goal (even a piece of the basket).
Where do you come up with the you can't fake rule on the hop step? Just curious because I asked the question earlier. I don't know the hop step "rules" but i know i have seen many people not go up for a shot after doing it and not getting called for anything. As far as I can tell, the hop step in allowed because its a traveling "loop hole" in the rule book. Havent checked into it much though.
Exactly. I do a SLOW MOTION drive to the basket all the time and it's NOT traveling, for it can be continuation. Dream did it all the time. He faked one way, then dribbled, picked up the dribble and walked slowly (not SwoLy) to the rim, and everyone was all because it looked like a travel. It's NOT a travel. You are right about the hop step, but it's not close to what DREAM used to do. That's a cool moniker, Face.
How about this? If a player is out of bounds and he slaps the ball from another player who is inbounds and it is a crucial game in a playoff series. Is it a turnover or is it out of bounds?
Here is the moral to this thread. Don't bring that weak ass game inside and get your shot blocked. k, thx, BYE!
Like I said, not because they allow the superstars to carry the ball does not mean that is the rule of the game. You need to watch how the same are called on rookies to understand. So 1 offcial, 1 time, made 1 wrong call, and you made into law? I suggest see the NBA rule book. http://www.nba.com/media/rule_book_2005-06.pdf Specifically, Rule 4, Section I c: "Five sides of the backboard (front, 2 sides, bottom and top) are considered in play ... The back of the backboard and the area directly behind it are out-of bounds." Read Rule 10, Section XIII d - Traveling: "If a player, with the ball in his possesion, raises his pivot foor off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball. " Look in the same section, they talk about the hop too. You just have to read a little.
You can do it. Everyone can. Those were just a few examples of who does it most. Ask Clutchcityreturns Ummm? You disproved your own point. Thanks for agreeing.
and before you respond the area directly behind it is a judgement call by the referee. It says nothing about being out if it goes over. And regarding the Kobe play I was refering to, the commentators explained that this was a new rule, etc. That Larry Bird did the same thing and it did not count back then but does now. Now, I don't know if they have changed it again since last year, but i didn't think they did.
Hahaha, you can't read ... you don't know geometry ... I must be arguing with a 12 yr old .... you win .
