This is not about this year. We have no chance to win the title this year. What this is about is rebuilding. Whether or not Taylor is an upgrade (and that's arguable), it doesn't matter. The point is that next year Hakeem will be gone and if we commit money to Taylor as our answer at the 4, then we're going to have problems. ------------------
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aelliott, I can't believe what you just said. Don't you wanna see the Rockets win some games this year? I go to all the games and I wanna watch wins! We have a chance to make the playoffs this year. We just should give up and rebuild since we can't win a championship?!? You wanna see the Rockets stop trying to win this year and concentrate on rebuilding?!? The Rockets always try to win. That's maybe the main reason I love them so.
I'm not saying we should resign Mo next year. I'm not saying he's the long-term answer at the PF. I just think its pointless to whine about it. We have him. He's pretty good. Maybe KT should start in from of him. I can maybe buy that. But Mo's a pretty good player. We made our team better by signing him. We didn't have to give anything up to get him. Why whine so much?
Falk touted his client as a player who should receive the maximum deal -- $93 million over seven years. Yeah Right!!! "I think that if you watch Houston's team, you see they need another presence in the post to help out guys on the perimeter," Taylor said. Still waiting to see that presence. Q: Maurice, can you talk about why you ultimately decided to take the one-year deal instead of a long-term deal? MT: I wanted to do the one-year deal because I thought it was best for me. On the financial end, I didn't want to get trapped into a long-term deal at this point in time because I felt that a lot of people haven't seen me play my best basketball. With me coming to a new situation with Houston, I think that people will see me play my best basketball and it would be better for me down the line financially. No comment ------------------ In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things: 1. Don't tell everything you know.
Starting KT ahead of Mo IMO would ruin any playoff chances we have. Would go right up there with someone saying they wanted to start Moochie in front of Steve. I do think long-term he has a good shot at being the answer at the 4 spot. I'd also like to say we aren't even a month in the season. Someone is judging a little hastily here. Although, I guess it's just characteristic of this board. Gotta find a scapegoat, and when you do, his career is over. I wish some of you would give it a rest. We are winning basketball games with Mo at PF. For the most part, we weren't last year with Kenny. Is Mo the only reason? No. But believe me, if Mo was as bad as so many of you are making him out to be we would not be winning as many games as we are. ------------------ President of the Jason Collier fan club! Looking for next year's Jason Collier or Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com
We are winning basketball games with Mo at PF. For the most part, we weren't last year with Kenny.-Cat So its KT's fault we didn't win last year? ------------------ In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things: 1. Don't tell everything you know.
Not totally of course. But we are winning more games with Mo than KT at PF, so it is worth bringing up. After all, wins are what matters. ------------------ President of the Jason Collier fan club! Looking for next year's Jason Collier or Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com
Oh my GOD! An agent and a player are conspiring together in an attempt to raise that player's value. First of all, everyone knows that David Falk is one the classiest men on the planet, above the board in every respect. Everyone knows he's never tried to influence particular teams to sign particular clients or tried to influence clients to sign with particular teams. I trust David Falk more than anyone else on the planet. Second of all, as a Rocket fan, it makes me FURIOUS when newly signed players say positive things. I just hate it when new players suggest ways they might be able to help the team. I also REALLY HATE when players are honest about their motivations. I wish Mo had lied about wanting to showcase himself in Houston this year in order to get more money next year. Mo should have made up some story about he fell in love with the Rocket coaches and players and Keith Jones and that his impending free agent status had nothing to do with this. Honesty and optimism are something I definitely DO NOT WANT in new players. You're right though, Mo hasn't shown the "presence in the post" he promised us before the season
aelliott, I can't believe what you just said. Don't you wanna see the Rockets win some games this year? Where did I say that I didn't want to see the Rockets win games? We just should give up and rebuild since we can't win a championship?!? Again, I don't believe that I ever said we should give up. Also, if you haven't noticed we're in the middle of rebuilding right now. What I don't want to happen is for us to commit long term money to Taylor and doom ourselves to mediocrity for the forseeable future. The Rockets always try to win. That's maybe the main reason I love them so. Yes, I agree, but I also believe that rebounding, shot blocking, interior defense and a strong post up game will give us a much better chance to win. ------------------
the point by point dance: "Where did I say that I didn't want to see the Rockets win games?" You're right. You never said that. I thought it was implied by "We have no chance to win the title this year. What this is about is rebuilding." I forget that you can perhaps both rebuild and try to win a few games. "What I don't want to happen is for us to commit long term money to Taylor and doom ourselves to mediocrity for the forseeable future". I agree 100%. I said "I'm not saying we should resign Mo next year. I'm not saying he's the long-term answer at the PF." ". . . I also believe that rebounding, shot blocking, interior defense and a strong post up game will give us a much better chance to win. Whether or not Taylor is an upgrade (and that's arguable), it doesn't matter." No one could argue that rebounding, shot blocking, strong post-up, etc. aren't important to winning. Obviously, every team wants to do those things successfully. I wish we were better at those things too. I wish we were better at doing all things basketball related. The point is: We signed Mo. He's a pretty good player. We made ourselves better by signing him. Why whine about it?
hmmm... good point heypartner. Did you also notice that when he went to Detroit that he visited his son? Sounds like if he truly liked the Rockets he'd make kids in Houston.
Why whine? How about because he is 6'9 250lbs and can't rebound. Is that clear enough for you? ------------------ In order to be a success in life, you need 2 things: 1. Don't tell everything you know.
I am willing to give Mo a bit more time to get acclimated, but he has to show more effort if he wants that FAT contract. Right now, the Rockets would be better off starting KT, and he is shooting awful this year. Mo may be one of those " ALL THE TALENT, NONE OF THE HEART " type of players, if so, he will be gone next year... DaDakota PS. Cat, Hakeem was also out for most of last year, which may contribute to them losing. ------------------ If Mankind evolved from Monkeys and Apes, then why are there still Monkeys and apes? [This message has been edited by DaDakota (edited November 19, 2000).]
How many times do I have to say it? Do you wish we'd spent our $2M on someone else? Is there some other guy we could've signed for the $2M exemption who would provide this rebouding prowess and interior defense you guys are all lusting after? Should we have not spent the $2M at all? Are we worse off with Mo than without? We should be singing Mo's praises, not whining about his deficiencies. You'd rather we didn't have Mo at all, or what? Yes. He can't rebound. Yes, I wish he could. Yes, we need rebounders. Why whine about it?
Cat, Remember this?: http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/007131.html Mo Taylor? No way. I'd rather have Kenny or Moiso. If you play about 37 minutes a night at the PF spot and can only grab 5 rebounds, it should tell you something. We need a hard-nosed, tough PF like Croshere or Brian Grant that is a monster on defense and the boards. That is completely the opposite of Taylor. -The Cat Seems that you've done quite the flip flop on this issue. ------------------ [This message has been edited by aelliott (edited November 19, 2000).]
jamcracker, Everyone realizes that Taylor is going to be here this year. Whether or not he is an improvement is debatable and it's also irrelivant to what we're discussing. We're discussing his place with the Rockets long term, not just this year. It's not whining, it's a fan discussion. That's what you do on message boards. ------------------
Cat, Check out this quote, I couldn't have said it better myself. Comparing Mo Taylor and Brian Grant? This one is easy. Brian Grant. Taylor is not what we need. We need a hard-nosed, defensive minded PF that can rebound with the best of them. We also need a great hustler. All of that describes Brian Grant, not Mo Taylor. Brian Grant would be ideal for this team. But sadly, I think he is out of our range. -Cat http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/007208.html ------------------
