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Bash Mo Here

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BobFinn*, Nov 18, 2000.

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  1. ROXRAN

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    In the holiday spirit : [​IMG]
    Bash, bash, Mo,..Bash, bash Mo,..Bash, bash all day long,..Bash, bash, Mo cause he can't board, but can score anyway! Hey!
    Crashing for the boards is one thing Mo can't say, because if he tries to, he will throw the ball away! Hey!
    Bash, bash, Mo,..Bash, bash Mo,..Bash, bash all night long,..Bash, bash, Mo cause he so slow, but wants dough anyway! Hey!
    Running down the floor, and all you have to do is score, O what fun it is to maybe play, but get the big pay day! Hey!


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  2. SmeggySmeg

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    Cat,

    6.5 is a good start but that was one year (last year), his first 2 years were 4.2 and 5.3 and then 6.5 and now with his 3.6 this year he is back to career average of 5. The increasing yearly average looked good and you would expect over 7 this year if the improvement curve continued, but realistically the 6.5 was probably more to do with aiming a max contract last year and so i was expecting at least the same this year.

    Smeg


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  3. The Cat

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    Take a look at his minutes too. He isn't playing near as much this year as last year. He didn't in those first two seasons either. He's playing almost 10 mpg less this year. That does make a difference.

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  4. BobFinn*

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    Thats where his foul trouble comes into play. He doesn't help us sitting on the bench.


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  5. The Cat

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    Even when he hasn't been in foul trouble he hasn't approached the 37 minutes a game he got last year. We just have a much deeper rotation than the Clips did.

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  6. CriscoKidd

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    Mo shouldn't need 37 minutes to average 6.5 rebounds.

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  7. jerinrulz

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    snow, u cant come to the nba w/out knowin how to rebound. and if u do, u sure as hell cant use that as an excuse. thas pure crap, he just doesnt care bout getting rebounds. when he looks in tha paper in the mornin and looks at stats, all he sees are points, and itd be a god send if he actually cared bout his fg%. I know ive said it ova and ova, but its pretty sad that a 37 yr old dream has earned a bigger chunk of his 16 mil than MO has of his 2 mil. 4 boards last nite improvement huh?.............

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  8. CriscoKidd

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    oooh

    AlaskanSnowman just got

    CLOWNED

    by jerinrulz.

    hehe [​IMG]

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  9. KALIKULI

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    Let's bring a true Power Forward on this team. Mo's just simply does'nt give 100% on the Board and ending up fouling the oponent because he is just simply slow. I'll say, let's bring Weber and ditch MO!

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  10. heypartner

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    I think Bob* is stepping it up, lately.

    Great posts*

    <font size="1">*-fun, informative and interesting
     
  11. jamcracker

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    What's the point? Why whine?

    Mo's not a good rebounder. Yes. Mo's not a great defender. Yes. Mo gets into early foul trouble. Yes. Mo doesn't post up very much. Yes.

    The fact is, he's an upgrade from any PF we had post-Charles last year. The fact is, he's better suited to start at the PF than any other player on our team. The fact is, he was offered more money by other teams, but he decided to come here and we were excited when we learned we'd signed him. So why whine about it?!?

    Of course I wish he was better. I wish all our players were better. I wish Shandon wouldn't make stupid TOs. I wish Dream could play 45 minutes. I wish Walt was a better defender. I wish KT could make layups. I wish could Bull shoot 85% for threes. Maybe defense and rebounding from the PF are at the top of our wish list, but that doesn't mean we should bash Mo. HE'S AN UPGRADE! Why whine about it?

    He does play pretty well on offense. He threw 2 beautiful ally-oops to Francis vs the Bulls. He drew that charge against Robinson last night to foul him out.

    Why whine? Do you guys think someone else should start? Do you wish we'd spent our $2M on someone else?

    At least our owner goes out an spends as much money as he can to put a team together. We didn't have to spend that $2M to sign Mo. We could have chosen not to use that exception.
     
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    jerin:

    Mo himself has said that he cares about rebounds and he worked over the summer to try to correct those problems. Obviously, they haven't been corrected yet, but I'm just saying this to show that he cares.

    aelliot:

    Since when does talking about rebounding make a guy a good rebounder. Derrick Chevious said the he could "score on anybody, anyplace, anytime". But, you know what? He couldn't.

    True. But the point I was tryin to make was that Cato is more confident and he himself expects results. The fact that he even said the quote goes to show that he thinks that he's a much better rebounder than before. And I think the player's own judgment of himself is the best.

    That's a nice idea, but I'll ask again, can you name one time in the entire history of the NBA that a guy that was a weak rebounder in college and through his first 3 years in the league, suddenly became a good rebounder?

    I dont think Mo will SUDDENLY start rebounding well. More likely, it will be a gradual process that will take a while.

    Ok, I'll ask again, can you name one big man that our staff ever taught to rebound? Give me some history to back up your theory.

    I dont really have that much history, BUT

    THE point I'm tryin to make is that if you work on something long enough, with proper instruction, then you WILL get good at it. If you work on your shot a lot, it will get better. If you work on your handles, they will get better. Same goes for rebounding. Mo simply never worked on his rebounding before. And now, it seems that he DOES want to improve. Now, he's just got to stay focused and keep trying and learning... and after a little while(who knows how long?), he will get better.

    My whole basis of thinking is based on common sense here-if you work on something, you'll get better at it.

    now lets hope MO works hard.

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    jerin:
    Mo himself has said that he cares about rebounds and he worked over the summer to try to correct those problems. Obviously, they haven't been corrected yet, but I'm just saying this to show that he cares.
    -alaskansnowman

    Crisco:

    I think I just

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    jerin back. hehe

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  14. CriscoKidd

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    jamcracker: I think the bashers are just trying to affirm that Mo is NOT the longterm answer at the PF spot and something should be done to get what this team needs(low post scoring, defense, rebounding) at this spot, maybe even as soon as this year, if possible.

    but I agree, I am glad that the Rocks signed Mo. If nothing else than to see if he has what it takes to fill the Rockets needs.

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  15. jamcracker

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    Crisco,

    BobFinn* started out by saying:
    Timing followed with:
    RocketsRUs says:
    There's more stuff like this in thread, I'm sure. I've seen other threads with semi-rational discussions about why Mo shouldn't get the max next year, and why we wouldn't wanna sign Mo regardless of his salary demands. This is not one of those threads. Its pointless whining (after a win, mind you) about a position we upgraded over the summer.
     
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    did bill clinton really not have sex w/ that woman??? no. of course mo's gonna say that, i mean tha guyz not stupid enough to come into a new city w/a bad rep, and say that he dint work on his game is he? obviously u could learn a thing or two from MO, being that u actually believed him....
    yo crisco, did snow juss get
    <h2>CLOWNED</h2>
    or did he juss get <h1>CLOWNED?????</h1>
    [​IMG]

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    It's a little funny how people will just pick any stat to slam a player they don't like. The Rockets are 9th in total rebounds out of 29 teams. And that was just a quick run-through I did. If you haven't watched the Rockets play this year, you don't know the kind of ability Taylor has. If you have been watching the Rockets, and can't recognize it, you don't know basketball. What, is the reason the Rockets are over-achieving at 6-5 the fault of Taylor? The guy is making the minimum, people. What are you so mad about? The team is YOUNG.

    Is there a Palm Beach bulletin board anywhere?

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  18. CriscoKidd

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    True. Some posters are just taking out their frustrations with MO on this board. I think there is some rational discussion in this thread, but as always, there are some quite dramatic exagerations.

    At this point, there isn't much to do about Mo except whine about Mo's productivity or point out the few bright spots he has brought to the table this year. Like it or not, the Rocks are stuck with Mo this year. He will not be traded. I don't care if he hinders KT's developement a little. If Mo plays like crap the whole year and the Rockets sign him for the max, then it is REALLY time to whine. I'll be keeping my eyes on college PF prospects though. [​IMG]

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  19. CriscoKidd

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    well, you did mention Clinton, so it probly is the bigger clowned.

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    The stats do not lie. KT, in 107 less minutes, has better #'s than Mo, across the board. http://espn.go.com/nba/teamstats/hou.html

    The only bad part to KT's game is his shooting%-37% to MO's-49%

    Also, if you notice, Mo is 2nd on the team in turnovers.

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