I don't know how big a deal people are really making of it. It is a misdemeanor charge, not a rape or anything. It seems to me that calling the cops was likely an overreaction. It is still less than polite to go and fondle a stranger. So, I won't spare Barkley some razzing. It doesn't mean I think he's a monster just because he did something wrong.
Stupid ignorant post? Unlike your great post of 1 line? ok, so lets say Barkley WAS NOT at the bar, then mabey one of the other thousand or so sex offenders would have. Barkleys not the point. Let me try a new angle, So I take it if all of yall were parents and had lets say a 7 year old girl. By your logic, it should be 100% ok for her to go get in the car or talk to strangers. Because if she does get kidnapped its 100% the strangers fault. Right? She should be able to go talk to all the strangers she wants to. I already know what the next responce is going to be, your going to say "well thats a 7 year old this is a grown women". well guess what, its about POWER. Those people who kidnap kids do it because they can, (that and a few screws loose) there bigger, there stronger. A 6'3" 250LB man has the same thing over a 5'4" 140LB women. thats just the reality of the world. What im NOT saying is "she should not of been there and because she was, what Chuck did was ok". Thats what you seem to be taking me as. All im doing is thinking alittle more then yall are. Yall are saying Everyone: if its true chuck is an ******* and should go to prison Agent86:if its true chuck is an ******* and should go to prison, and mabey she should have taken better care Is that really that bad? BTW: No need for personal attacks, this is a bbs, its here to debate Rockets and other issues. Dont get mad when we put it to use. Enjoy this and have fun. How often do you get to debate like this. Replace all my post with "FRY THE JAZZHOLE "
i agree with you 86, responsibility is a 2 way street. that's not to justify a man groping a woman, it's just also lays blame onto those who knowlingly place themselves in situations where they will more likely be harmed. anyway, i hope the chuckster didn't do it
Personally I think that calling another poster "stupid" is worse that an allegation against Barkley. Even if a poster is off base, calling him/her stupid does not help, hell it makes me mad and I don't agree with him either. Aren't we all a little too smart for that?
It's not a two way street in this case. The situation the woman placed herself in was being at a club. Is going to a club asking to groped? Why would a club be a place where harm is a likely outcome?
if, as most do, the woman claiming to be groped was dressing skimpy then yeah she put herself in a bad situation by getting guys' hormones all riled up. it's not just showing up, it's her mannerisms, the way she carries herself.
and count the fact that she knows she is less powerful than most guys and that she's going into a place full of drunk men who won't know right from wrong. it's like crossing the street blindfolded...
Barkley is a grown adult man with the ability to control himself. If anyone is to blame for the alleged groping, it would be him, not the alleged victim.
Also, I might add: "with great power comes great responsbility" - Uncle Ben "Spider-Man" 2002 It's something that guys like Kobe Bryant and Charles Barkley should apply in everyday life.
What if she was dancing with or should I say on Barkley and at first he had his hand on her hip while she was grinding his mid section like these freaks love to do at the club. Then she started dropping it like its hot and his hand slid up to her breast. Then she turned around and saw one of her sugar daddy’s their watching her and she had to play it off so she wouldn't loose that rent money.
Maybe she's with her friends having a good time. If a drunk man doesn't know right from wrong wouldn't that be their fault?
Sensing the imminent dismisal of the Kobe trial, Barkley decided that he would not let the media go idle.
Agent86 - I love your lion analogy. Can you answer something for me real quick -- what is the salient difference between a society of lions and civilized humans? - Opposable thumbs : true, but not relevant - Paws : you're getting warmer - Laws : yes, that's right It is illegal to grope someone without consent. To expect someone to live their life with the assumption that their rights will be violated is insane. Are there situations (even entire societies) where this insanity is normal? Sure, but that doesn't make it right.
Looks like the case has been dropped... http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-barkley-indecentassault&prov=ap&type=lgns Woman who accused Barkley of groping her withdraws complaint PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- The woman who accused Charles Barkley of groping her at a nightclub withdrew her police complaint. ``It's a noncase. It's over with,'' her lawyer, A. Charles Peruto Jr., said Thursday, adding ``everyone is under agreement that this was just a big misunderstanding.'' The woman had told police the former NBA star inappropriately touched her breast last week in a crowded nightclub. Police were investigating and the woman hired Peruto, but then she had second thoughts about pursuing the matter. Philadelphia police would not comment on the case. On Wednesday, Peruto said she was willing to drop any complaints, civil or criminal, as long as Barkley apologized. Peruto declined to say Thursday whether that happened, but said both sides were satisfied the issue was resolved. No money changed hands, he said. ``She's had time to reflect, and we just want to close this chapter,'' he said, adding he believed Barkley didn't intend to treat the woman disrespectfully. ``I've known him for 20 years, and to be honest with you, I've always found him to be an honorable guy.'' Barkley, who played for the 76ers, was a nine-time All-Star and the league's MVP in 1993. He has been an analyst with cable network TNT since his retirement in 2000.
