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Barkley is right...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. SuperMarioBro

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    I still have complete faith in McGrady. He says some ridiculous things about himself when he lets him emotions get the better of him. Remember when he said in 03/04 that he was going to retire because he couldn't play against zone defense? Remember when he said he was happy to be out of the first round?

    I'm sure McGrady is not yet in game shape, but I'm also sure that 95% of his problem right now is mental -- NOT physical. Once he has one single solitary great, dominant performance (no performance so far this year falls under that category) in all facets on offense, he will be back to his self.

    It's not likely to even be a slow transition. It's going to be like night and day. One day he will be passive, slow, and inconsistent (like now), and the next he will be tearing people to shreds like 02/03 or 04/05 McGrady all over again. He needs that one 40-point night.

    I give him until December.
     
  2. rumcoke

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    yeah cause clearly an infected toe is the same as plantar facilitis, and yao seemed to being doing just fine after the all star break so dont give me that crap.

    also if you read my post clearly, you would have understood that i was alluding to the amount of wins the rockets had without mcgrady, which was 2, as opposed to the 6-15 or whatever you said, which im not even sure is correct. im not making the "it isnt as bad as it looks" argument, so get your head on straight, buddy.

    yeah i guess watching tmac cut and p'n'r his way into lane and passing it out for an open shot is letting defenses stand still, silly me. :rolleyes: as opposed to yao backing it down against a single defensive player, and passing it out when someone is relatively open. im still more convinced that the defense is being knocked on their heels when mcgrady is the primary ball handler on offense, making all the necessary decisions

    as for your post, im sure that you are angry about what the TNT people are saying, and that Yao isnt getting the manlove you want in this thread, but there's no reason to get touchy. take it easy
     
  3. dreammvp

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    Exactly. Yao has one or 2 games that aren't AWSOME and people start pointing out his negatives again. Tracy hasn't played well all season except in spurts and many times in his career people have questioned his desire. You can't question Yao's desire or work ethic. he wants to be the best and doesn't plan on retiring till he wins a championship. I'm glad to see finally people are getting on TMAC. I just hope it motivates him. I don't see that fire in him. He promised he would have it this season and hasn't shown it yet. I was so hyped because of all the hype he was giving up before the season started. Where is that hype or was that just to sell season tickets and an order from Les Alexander??!!! This is Yao's team now but we still need major contributions from our Super Duper Star in TMAC
     
  4. rockets fan

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    I could of swore the the Rocks got more than 2 wins last year without McGrady.

    But I don't get your poing about Duncan's injury and Yao's. Yao clearly broke out after he got his toe fixed. So I don''t get your point? :confused:
     
  5. tested911

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    Sorry to burst your bubble but I personally don't think Tracy Mcgrady will ever become like his former self... As a matter of fact his stats for the past 3 years prove it.. THEY ARE GOING DOWN... not up..
     
  6. jj3469

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    you guys are so negative, we are winning basketball games, and u are still complaining, be thankfull that we are winning, doesn't matter how u get them as longas you are getting them
     
  7. jVgOwnsYou

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    In basketball, stats do not tell the whole story....His scoring is down a little, but if he can get it up to 22 a night and keep his assists up, he is doing his job on offense. Yao is officially our best scorer right now. 27 points a night from him added with a 22 point per game Mcgrady gives us 49 points a night. That's much better than the 44 a night we were getting when Tmac averaged 26 ppg two seasons ago. What is there to complain about? Tracy's percentages are lower, but it looks like his shot is back so I see him getting that up to about his career average of 43/44 FG%....I see this team winning more games than the 04-05 Rox.
     
  8. DonkeyMagic

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    tmac cant win with people. he is either called a ball hog or people accuse him of not being more aggressive.

    if you think tmac has to put up big scoring numbers to help the rockets win, then you are mistake, especially with this teams talent
     
  9. Amel

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    my expectation are really high this year, if we don't make the semi finals this year, we probably will not get the championship in another 10 years
     
  10. Lil Lee

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    for once, barkley said the right thing. T-Mac must be the main superstar on this team and then Yao Ming should compliment him. But I like the way the rockets start the game....first half it should be Yao, the 2nd half mostly the 4th quarter its tracy mcgrady time!!

    Yao is playing like a MVP, but this is the new NBA. Run and Gun style. Yao cannot do what he does for the majority of games. There are teams alot quicker than us that could tire out Yao on defense. Since he'll be exhausted, TMAC NEEDS TO TAKE OVER!!

    He needs to have that confident cocky attitude like Kobe. Tracy has all the talent in the world to be the best player in the NBA, but he just is not having the confidence. He needs to average WAY MORE FREETHROWS!! He only shot like 3 freethrows last night! WTF?????? That's unacceptable. Even if his free throw % is off, he'll get it back.

    T-Mac will know his role soon. Shooot, he better! We brought him to Houston to see him explode on Offense!

    Clutch City will be back soon!!
     
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    MEDIA PERSPECTIVE---Superstars are what we like to talk about, not winning teams.

    COACHING PERSPECTIVE--I don't care if you are a superstar if we can't WIN!

    FAN PERSPECTIVE--Why can't these guys do what we want them to do and do it better than we ever could? He does this wrong, he's not good enough, it is the coaches fault, its the stupid uniforms, etc.....

    MY PERSPECTIVE--The rockets are still figuring out their identity, the rockets are better than last year in many areas (except defense IMO), YAO DOES MAKE OTHERS BETTER and so does TMAC, Tmac will get better at scoring after facing every team at least once, BARKLEY should stick to kissing ASS for the stupid things he says, Kenny Smith is all HYPEMONGERING and couldn't play defense on RYBO.

    TOO BE FAIR to Charles and Kenny....the language barrier has not impeded Yao's progress (Draft night analysis) and Yao will never meet some peoples expectations....even those who said it was not fair to compare Kobe to Jordan and continue to compare Yao to Shaq.

    I LIKE BEING the UNDERDOG, so keep running your mouth Beef Chuck I got an ass you can kiss.....and Kenny...Dream called and wants his rings back!
     
  12. aakhan786

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    T-Mac is getting 16+ million not to be a playmaker! Agreed, he should do whatever it takes to win, whether it means Yao gets the ball more or getting other players involved. However, for the Rockets to compete with the best NBA teams. T-mac will have to dominate. The problem with T-mac is, he's not as hungry as Allen Iverson, Kevin Garnett. If he had that hunger, GAME OVER! What is all this retirement talk, being a top 5 player with the contract he has, where do u think his mind is? Just go to the hoop, get fouled, make free throws and open the paint for Yao. That's the only play making he should be doing, plain and simple. Battier, Alston, Wells, Head, and Hayes will play off this. It worked for Bulls and Lakers!
     
  13. PlaySmart

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    Sad but true
     
  14. prv1981

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    When Kenny was talking about big men making players on their team better. He used Shaq and Hakeem as the examples. Shaq and Hakeem are the best two centers in the NBA from the past 20 years and they are probably both in the top five all time. For them to compare Yao to them is unfair.

    Some things just never change. No matter how good Yao or the Rox are doing they always have to say something negative about him and the team.
     
  15. HoopsFancy

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    yao should be hold up to high standards because yao is the class of hakeem and shaq. but yeas, yao and the rox deserve some props :D
     
  16. Riz

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    I agree. He needs some motivation, it looks like he has forgotten that this season we are playin for championship not deep playoff run!! on the positive note Tmac is starting to come back to his groove slowly but at least he is I give him a month and a half to be the Tmac we know and when that happens with Yao on our side its over!! the roof is on fire!!! :cool:
     
  17. rofflesaurus

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    still waiting for t-mac to show some heart and will out there...
     
  18. jscmedia

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    ya'll are pretty much nutz. T MAc cleared up the quote, ah misquoted by networks of course, so look forward..not back.

    ever fall on your back from 5 feet?
     
  19. jscmedia

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    I hope Yao thinks he should be mentioned with them someday. It might be asking a bit much, but he shows flashes. Still too early to write off Yao's game. He DID come from China, ya know? He is still letting go of the chinese way of relating, that's what I truly beleive. Like I said 2 years ago, when Yao starts deciding he should live here, his Americanization wil have truly begun. And I do think the "tude" people want from him is just waiting permmission to show up.

    a little pop psychology fer ya! anybody else feel this way?.......
     
  20. dreammvp

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    A couple games Yao puts up 20 pts 10 reb. and people are slowly getting on his case. Unbelievable. Most of the time I like what Barkely says and I agreed with what he said about TMAC but his other comments about Yao are just so he doesn't make himself look like a dumbass. Every opportunity he gets, he throws a jab at Yao's game. He said when Yao scores, it's not dominating. He should dominate Ben Wallace because he is so much bigger and he was disappointed that Yao was not killing Ben Wallace. We are talking about a DEfensive Player of the Year. Ben Wallace is one of the best defenseive players in the past 5 years. Then he said Yao did dominate against Shaq but Shaq was hurt so thats not fair. WTF!!!! :mad:
    He gets no respect from Chuck but I expect that from Charles after he said Yao would never score 20 pts.....He can't take it that he was TOTALLY WRONG and people throw it in his face....
     

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