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Barkley is right...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. xiki

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    Sure sounded like Spin-a-Shaq to me. I didn't buy it.
     
  2. yaoonlyfanhuh

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    We are the fans who defended Tmac when he has the bad games also. Bottom line, we never bash any one of our players. Now, how about you back off. :rolleyes:
     
  3. yaoonlyfanhuh

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    This is how you like Yao


    Back off you looser. :mad:
     
  4. rocketsfan33

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    I love Yao and the fact that he has become so much better but this team needs Tracy to score. Getting 20-25 pts and 10-12 rebs a night from Yao will be enough but T-Mac has to be the man. You can tell he's not 100% yet but it was really good seeing him driving and dunking again. The confidence is coming back. Yao has been playing great and I'm not a hater or anything but T-Mac holds the keys to the rockets success.
     
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    you can't count on Tmac or Yao alone to be a contender. Either both must
    play like all-stars or the role players must step up aka 94 Rockets.
     
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    I can't even believe this **** I'm reading right now!

    A few games ago Yao was the greatest thing since slice bread and all of a sudden after a couple of below average games(even though he still scored 20pts per game) I have to come here and read this crap about Yao in a thread about McGrady.

    Barkley had already kissed the donkey, any Yao haters want to take it up another level and challenge Yao?

    This BS is getting old, we can settle this issue once and for all, whether you like it or not, this is Yao's team, he is the ONE who will bring us a championship.

    So have your little comments, state your little opinions but at the end of the day the truth is still the truth.

    P.S. I have been on Yao's corner since day one, I have been ridiculed by rude posters(Yao haters), I will continue to be in his corner until the day he proves me wrong(and it ain't gonna happened so you Yao haters just have to deal with it)
     
  8. Amel

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    ............

    I aint even going to start....

    but, this is a TMac thread so guys please go somewhere else
     
  9. fuzzy88

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    I can't believe you guys are Rox fans, or I can't believe Rox fans can agree with TNT and Barkley. Here are some reasons:

    1. Barkley and folks have to be somewhat controversial. Otherwise they don’t look original, and most importantly, controversy makes news!
    2. Remember they are looking at Yao from their point of view. Americans are expressive by culture, and black athletes especially so. But let me ask you, does all the fist pumping and screaming add to any point, or rebound, or steals, or assists?
    3. Yao dominated 3 games where Rox won big. On his off night (tonight), he still had 20 and 12. That’s his off night, mind you. Didn’t someone say Dwight Howard was better than Yao, and Dwight would only get a 20/12 on a good night? (BTW, Dwight has a great start this year, he has 14.6/12.3 avg right now).
    4. OK, Yao did not make his team better. Is that an opinion or a fact? Please vote in your head before you read on…. An opinion, of course! Look at Lenovo +/-, the first time any real stats try to indicate if a player has positive or negative impact on a team. Now, these numbers are real, these numbers are fact. Barkley’s statement is mere opinion, and he couldn’t even back it up.
    5. OK, let’s just ask yourself this: Would Rox have their records today if instead of Yao you have say Ben Wallace (who, BTW, got about $15MM per year, same as Yao).

    I still can’t believe you guys believe Barkley's statement and start a thread on this topic.
     
  10. yaoonlyfanhuh

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    Then why you bash Yao at first place? Yes, you are not rooky. You sure like JHO. :rolleyes:
     
  11. KALIKULI

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    TMac has got to get loosen up! Just like Kobe and Shaq in LA LA Land! It's TMac and YAo in Htown! It's time Mcgrady step up to the plate and get charge. If you listen to Barkleys comment that your pick age to be dominant on this game is between 25 to 32 yrs old and possible that Barkley wants to say that TMac can be that dominant player but he held it.
     
  12. Yetti

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    It's not bad when you consider that he wasn't really included as a focal point in this game. The games where Yao played well he was the focal point and Tracy was playing more of a Playmaker .There were times to-night that Yao looked like in his rookie year, when he just didn't understand the NBA game and was floundering on the court. The Rockets can't have this type of game too often.
    If we are really going away from Yao and trying to develop Tracy game and our outside shooting game then we have changed our direction and it isn't Yao's team but Tracy's.
     
  13. monkeyboy32

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    You cant compare Yao and Shaq in regards of them making players around them better. Sure Kobe and Wade got better playing with Shaq, but my nature they are different than Tmac, in that they are slasher that takes it to the hole strong. Tmac doesnt benefit as much with playing with a dominant big men, be it Yao or Shaq, because he loves to shoot the outside jumper. I dont care how good Shaq is or was, but if you give him the role players the Rockets have had, he would not carry them anywhere. If I recall, Shaq's teams werent contenders until Penny, Kobe, and Wade made the jump to superstars. Shaq's presences may have accelerated their growth, but he could never do alone, and most of his teams have had great role players. I love Barkley, but I would take his or any commentators analysis with a grain of salt.
     
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    All Yao needs is a good coach. Yao is not good at marathon either
     
  15. NothingButNet

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    This is one of ugliest wins I've even seen Rockets played. My feeling after game is as bad as a loss. I quote JVG's comment after the Bucks game: thank goodness the game is 48 minutes, not 49.

    Yes there'll be a lot of growning pains as the season goes on. But if this team keeps making the same mistake 4 or 5 gams in a row, there'll be definitely a psychological problem. When people are still quarreling about T-Mac and Yao's performance and leadership, I think we should bring more attention on the team performance. A successful team should play team basketball, when facing a problem, the whole team should make adjustment. We need to bring this topic on the highest table right now.

    Why can't the team chemistry last 48 minutes long?

    We need to start posting more practical solutions rather than useless disrespection to other Clutch fans, individual players and of course the critics.
     
  16. Icehouse

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    Barkley just called D.Howard the best young big man in the game. Is Yao old?
     
  17. Like A Breath

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    Rockets get complacent whenever they get a lead. T-Mac starts chucking 3's and nobody can run a play without running a member of the other team over. Just sloppy basketball, it's no wonder they blow leads so easily.
     
  18. gasnapalm

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    barkley is only partly right, the bottom line is that we need BOTH tmac and yao on top of their game to be contenders. Yao for his advantage he has against anybody defending him, and tmac for the fact that he is an amazing perimeter oriented talent who cannot be stopped when he is feeling it, and with how the new hand checking rules cator to perimeter players over post men we need this advantage along with yao's advantage
     
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    I had to mute the halftime show and the pregame show, it was so bad. Usually I listen through garbage like this but I had to mute it this time to avoid throwing something through the super expensive plasma TV I was watching the game on.

    Timmy had an off SEASON, and entire SEASON where he didn't play well (two seasons actually, namely the last two), and he gets a total free pass. WTF, Yao plays poorly for two games, and he's a big Chinese stiff who makes Shawn Bradley look like Bill Russell, won't score 20 points in a game, is mentally weak, soft, not a dominant player, can't carry the team? WTF? Where were these morons two games ago?

    And keep in mind "poorly" is 20-12-2-1. When Erick Dampier puts up these numbers, for example, you get an AP summary saying how this is the type of performance that lives up to a $70 million contract.

    The TNT studio people basically put all the old Yao-bashing arguments and spat them out in a neat package. If you say "Yao can't carry this team", well let's see T-Mac's sterling 6-15 (or whatever) record when Yao didn't play last year. Yep, that's sure carrying the team all right.

    I can't believe anyone here would agree with those yahoos on the TNT set. Truly ridiculous.
     
  20. compucomp

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    Oh, Amel, this thread doesn't just deserve a ranking of 1, it deserves a ranking of negative infinity.
     

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