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Barkley: Camby Should Be Starting All-Star Center Over Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotballa, Jan 24, 2008.

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  1. Sofine81

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    Go look at the stats, and then come back and talk to me....... :rolleyes:
     
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    Stats arent everything. Do you think the spurs would be champions without bruce bowen's defense?

    Do you think the rockets would even have a shot at the playoffs without battier's hustle?
     
  3. wekko368

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    And are you seriously saying that a person isnt entitled to his/her own opinion?
     
  4. tinman

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    I saw Mark Bryant back in the day at 24 hr fitness on Richmond.
    Kenny was on his last legs, I don't think he had beef with the Rockets. What may have ticked Chuck and Kenny off was how the Rockets treated Rudy T.
     
  5. haven

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    Yes.

    Many players could step in and fill the same role. Guys like Bowen are fungible. They just aren't noticed when they play on crappy teams.
     
  6. bronx43

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    No, he's saying that Yao being better than Camby is a fact and not an opinion.
     
  7. wekko368

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    Bowen is regarded as one of the league's best perimeter defenders. You say many people could replace him.

    Can you name 5 players who you think are at bowen's caliber??
     
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    My bad, I can't guess everyone's age. However, I appreciate your fandom at 7 years old!

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/recasel01.html
    You are right, Recasner did start 27 games that season.
    [​IMG]

    But when Sam Cassell got traded away, he proved to the Rockets and the rest of the world that he was deserving of being a starter!
     
  9. wekko368

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    If it were a fact, it wouldnt be debatable. But since people are debating it, its clearly not a fact.
     
  10. bronx43

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    Who's actually debating it? I can make a number of very obvious statements that would be debatable. But, it doesn't make the statements reasonable.
    For instance, I can say Michael Redd is better than Dwyane Wade. Is it true? Well, according to most, no. Can someone make a case for Redd? I guess.
    Just because a statement has room for debate doesn't make it a reasonable statement.
     
  11. wekko368

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    I honestly do think that wade is overrated. although i recognize his skill, his preferential treatment from the refs (especially during the 06 finals) will affect a lot of people's perception of his true ability.

    the point in the earlier post was to show that theres a difference between a fact an opinion.

    and no one is debating the idea that yao is better than camby. we all know he is. but there are teams out there where camby would flourish and yao wouldnt.

    some posters were saying that no team would take camby over yao.
     
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    In the world of sports, there are no facts other than statistical facts. Anything else is subjective or at least has a subjective aspect. A statement like "Yao is better than Camby" is about as "factual" as you can get in the NBA, without going totally senseless like comparing Kobe to Dorrell Wright.
     
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    Such teams as? even playing with GSW or the PHX suns. Yao would still be better than Camby.
     
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    Phoenix can't use Yao? Seriously, deep inside they know a run-and-gun team is hard to go all the way in the playoff. Even Yao can play only 30 min in this fast moving team, move Amare to PF where he should be, have Nash dishing out to Yao and Amare, add some punches from Barbosa. They will finish off Spurs without any doubt.
     
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    Camby: 9.5 pts, 14.4 rbs, 3.9blk
    Yao: 22.4 pts, 10.7 rbs, 2.3 blk


    It's not hard to believe some people prefer Camby over Yao if they look at stats. Defensively stat wise camby seems better while if you want offense Yao is better. Camby isnt the focus on offense since they got so many other weapons.
     
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    The question is, if a team had to replace its current starting center (or players who play pf/c like duncan), would it rather replace it with yao or camby?

    I dont think every team would pick yao.
     
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    Barkley is just playing stupid on TV, that is all. I guess sometimes TV stations benefit from being controversial. Yeah yeah he is shooting off... but who doesn't once in a while?

    Yao Ming is so much better than Camby. Period.
     
  18. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Thats a good point.
     
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    I don't have to go look at stats becasue I already know that Yao is better than Camby. But everyone else doesn't have to think the same think.
     
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    Charles simply Charles with half brain and half jack ass! Camby over Yao! Statistics will show that Yao will produce better on the court on any day , any occassion any time!
     

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