Barack Obama says Democrats need to avoid being a 'buzzkill'

I am not defending trump but pointing out that both parties b!tch and moan after elections.

Tip jar bet for the midterms? If the GOP take the house and senate, $200 to clutchfans and 1 month away from the D and D for you.

I will pay the bet if the dems hold either. Tie in the senate and we push.

 

Absolutely. Hillary didn't question the voting process. She conceded the night of the election. She believes Donald Trump was a benefit of a foreign country helping his campaign by doing things like creating troll farms and spamming propaganda on American social media platforms disgusued as American citizens. That has absolutely nothing to do with believing millions of votes are fake news.


Like Hillary Clinton wasn't trying to convince the courts to dismiss ALL ballots from GOP stronghold district with the most populous GOP population in the country. Donald Trump's campaign was literally trying to tell Americans and our court system that the most populous Black voting district in the country's thousands upon thousands of votes are all fraudulent. Hillary Clinton wasn't trying to violate the constitutional rights of millions of Americans by trying to dismiss their vote.


Look we all know here that when context is applied to your vague assertions like "But Hillary" you don't have any footing.

A third of Democrat candidates in primaries, state elections, federal elections etc aren't going to predetermine that the votes are fake news and tell their voters that they won't accept election results because they think the votes are going to be fake news.


I keep repeating this because you haven't really addressed anything I typed. You just reinstate your premise that "both sides do it". I'm telling no, both sides aren't doing it and explaining why. Address the points I type or just expect me to copy and paste my response you aren't addressing.

 

Also the context of the dispute is important. For example, with Gore he had rational grounds to dispute the difference between a few thousand votes in one state compared to hundreds of thousands of votes in multiple states with an overarching conspiracy that millions of votes are fake.

 

LOL I can't believe they still out here trying to act like disaffected democrats.

 

#walkaway

 

I keep asking this question and have yet to have it answered.

What is the Democrat's messaging problem, they message about the same as the Republicans, they just don't appeal to base instincts like Republicans.

What message is not being given by Democrats?

What is this magic bullet that would solve with messaging?

If democrats don't hang on every add like republicans how do you make them care, all the information is out there and readily available.

What platform should be used to get this messaging out there that democrats would respond to.

What is a greater message than Republicans are trying to abolish abortion as well as voting rights I don't even really watch much news but I see it all the time.

I think blaming Democrats for a messaging problem is a lazy way of looking at things, and maybe Democrats need to actually start caring as much as Republicans and vote in kind.

Biden has been out touting all the stuff he has done this year for awhile, what else should be happening?

 

The magic bullet apparently is to shut down all leftist thought and discussion and attribute any problems in the party to them. Then the real policy makers like Pelosi and Shuemer can get to work and maybe a little side hustle (insider trading) for their hard work.

 

The Democrats don't message the way Republicans do.

Republicans chose messages and all hit that message over and over. Even when it isn't true they all keep at it over and over.

The topic of their messages isn't ever really about policy intracies or how things will work. It's about stopping the problems with Democrats.

Democrats have gotten better on being unified. They almost all talk about abortion now. But they talk about new protections they will pass and the specifics that will be in the legislation.

Democrats need to make the main point that Republicans are going to make matter worse on abortions and how they will force rape victims to have the rapist's children. That is true because of Republicans like candidate x. Only a Democratic majority can help protect victims of rape.

They shouldn't mention any policy details. Post them on their website, but never speak of them unless it's a direct question. Never make it part of an ad.

 

And here you go with that bullshit again, acting as if anybody is trying to shut all leftist thought down.

Stop being such a victim.

If you cannot see the work that has been done since Biden has been in office still want to play the victim, you are part of the problem.

 

Those are the messages I am hearing yet you still hear about the messaging problem and even if they do exactly this how does if affect voting patterns who is this energizing that's not already energized/

 

No you keep asking all the questions.

 

My statement has nothing to do with Biden. It was more of a response to a reply blaming leftists for election losses.

 

So smart guy what happens when you defund the police how does that make anything better, there will just be private police forces and they will be even worse than what we have now.

You are a closet anarchist and just want to see **** burn.

Ho do you solve the "culture issue" I mean human nature has been going on since the dawn of mankind those with power abuse it so smart guy how do you solve human nature?

 

And who is doing that, and why would you bring Biden into the conversation if he had nothing to do with it?

I bet it really grinds your gears that you can't really b**** about Biden as much as you want to.

 

I think sincerity in debates are lost once you try to peg the person you are debating with wanting the world to burn.

No I don't. Also basic intellectual curiosity would help here. "Defund the police" is a slogan. There is plenty of literature you can find online if you are curious about the actual policy desires they want.


And culture change is dependent on who we hire. Applicants who have social media accounts that express sentiments like thin blue line or have negative sentiments about cultures of minority or immigrant groups should be screened out.

Law enforcement career is a privilege not a right. We can filter and deny applicants these careers based on social and political ideology. Political ideology isn't a protected class.

 

You ramp up your confrontation to ten over the stupidest hills.

 

You are the guy that continually brought up revolution for a year and seemed to think that was a vialble solution.

You sure like to have selective memory.

I know what Defund the police is are you actually trying to say its no big deal and perfectly fine as a slogan?

You never actually answered what would happen if you defunded police and how that would affect the lower income people you claim to worry about so much.

You also did not answer how you change human nature its not only the ones who have stuff on social media doing the wrong and any entity that would replace the police would have the same problems of abuse I think you should study some psychology on the subject.

Start here.

The Stanford prison experiment and the Migram experiment.

 

No, I just call out your stupidity and victim complex.

You and I both know this is not 10 it's barely a 7.

 

What am I claiming to be a victim of?