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"Barack Obama could not win the presidency" -Hillary

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  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    Democratic infighting continues....

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/04032008/news/nationalnews/baracks_a_lost_cause__hill_104814.htm

    BARACK'S A LOST CAUSE: HILL
    VAIN BID TO WIN RICHARDSON'S SUPPORT
    By CHARLES HURT, Bureau Chief

    April 3, 2008 --

    WASHINGTON - While lobbying for his endorsement, Hillary Rodham Clinton flatly told New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson that Barack Obama could not win the presidency if he got the Democratic nomination.

    "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win," she said, according to a report by ABC News.

    Clinton Would Sweep McCain in Fla., Pa., Ohio: Poll

    Obama: I'm the Underdog, Not Hillary

    Despite her appeal, Richardson ultimately endorsed Obama - which sent Bill Clinton into a purple rage last weekend during a private meeting with California superdelegates.

    "Five times to my face [Richardson] said that he would never do that," the former president thundered.

    One of the roughly 15 superdelegates in attendance told the San Francisco Chronicle, "It was one of the worst political meetings I have ever attended."

    Bill Clinton's tirade was triggered when Rachel Binah, a superdelegate who had supported Richardson's campaign, said she regretted that Bill's former top aide, James Carville, had called the governor a "Judas."

    Others attending the meeting, assembled hastily during the state party convention in San Jose, confirmed the exchange but tried to soften the description of Bill's anger.

    It was "very good, very intense," said undeclared superdelegate Christine Pelosi, the daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    "The word 'tirade' may be used differently out here than in the rest of the country," said Chris Stampolis, who supports Clinton's presidential bid and also attended the meeting.

    "There was not a single swear word, no screaming, no pounding on anything."

    Tirade or not, it was harsh enough for California Democratic Party Chairman Art Torres to later call Binah and apologize on behalf of the former president.

    During the meeting, superdelegates urged Bill Clinton to approach the undeclared delegates in a more balanced manner, the way he would approach independent voters in an election.

    "We were all looking around the room like 'this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity,' " Stampolis said. "We're having an actual debate - a dialogue - here. I came away very impressed."

    After the meeting, Bill Clinton spoke to a larger crowd of California Democrats and advised that everyone needs to "chill out."

    In other campaign news yesterday, former Indiana Congressman and 9/11 Commission co-chairman Lee Hamilton endorsed Obama, praising his ability to transcend partisan divides and calling his foreign-policy stance "pragmatic, visionary and tough."

    The endorsement adds to Obama's foreign-policy credentials and is especially important because Indiana is one of the few primary states that hasn't yet voted.

    Also, Obama said yesterday he would ask former Vice President Al Gore to play a key role in his administration with respect to global-warming issues.

    churt@nypost.com
     
  2. bucket

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    How is that "infighting"? The quote is something that Hillary told Bill Richardson while trying to get his endorsement, not a public statement. Hillary is campaigning, big news.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Apparently there's a meme out this morning that's contradicting the story and now the Clinton Camp is accusing Richardson as the one who said he couldn’t win.

    Now why would someone say Obama couldn’t win and then endorse him?
     
  4. ymc

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    Based on my understanding, Richardson promised Bill Clinton that he wouldn't endorse anyone until the primaries are over. He broke that promise, that's why Bill was furious with him.

    Later reporters asked Richardson about it. He answered he never promised to endorse Hillary.

    In this episode, I think both versions of events are true. But Richardson did break a promise. It is understandable that Bill is angry.
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Bill C never ever broke promises. LOL
     
  6. Achilleus

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    Oh, thanks for clearing that up...

    :rolleyes:
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    hey you have to appreciate having a poster on the board who knows exactly what was promised.
     
  8. cson

    cson Contributing Member

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    What do you care? No confident in McCain huh?
     
  9. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    Well, he sure can raise money...

    According to the article, the Clinton campaign refused to release their numbers.
     
  10. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    Well, he's still drawing support from Super delegates...

     
  11. bnb

    bnb Contributing Member

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    THere is something truly offensive about $200M plus being spent on campaigns. (I'm guessing Hillary and McCain raised at least $66m between them). That's messed up.
     
  12. Smokey

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    Only the Democrats could blow this opportunity.

    Could we get a third party not run by nut jobs?
     
  13. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

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    I guess that means Hillary wouldn't accept a VP slot under Obama.
     
  14. Refman

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    Or wedding vows.
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    LOL indeed. :D
     
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    Because Judas has a history of making fantastic and utterly wrong lies.
     
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    This is unbelievable. Please post a link for this. If true, Hillary's campaign continues to shoot itself.
     
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    This is really getting weird --

    Richardson Spokesman: He Never Said Obama Can't Win

    A spokesperson for Bill Richardson is adamantly denying what top Hillary confidantes told Mark Halperin and me this morning, claiming that the New Mexico governor never...

    (a) Promised not to endorse Obama; and

    (b) Questioned Obama's chances in the general election.

    "The Governor never promised that he wouldn’t endorse Obama," Richardson spokesperson Pahl Shipley emails me. “The Governor has never questioned Senator Obama’s electability. He believes Barack Obama is the right person to lead this country and he will be America’s next President."

    So there you have it.

    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/
     
  20. mc mark

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    $20 million for march
     

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