Barack Hussein Obama is making Jimmy Carter look good...

I have no idea if the OP is a bigot. He may be he may not. He could just be someone who wants to rile everyone up in here and is did a pretty damn good job. I have no idea who the OP is and I don't really care. Also I NEVER defended the OP in anyway. Read all my posts. I have started all of them with I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE OP's intentions or views are and frankly I really could care less.
Also when did I ever say I was offended by people being offended? I am simply curious as to why people get so worked up over a middle name.

 

Not really. I have no reasons of mine own not to get it. It's a middle name! It's a muslim middle name I get it. The OP might have used it intentionally I get it. But seriously who cares? The OP may be racist. The OP might not be. The OP might be some guy who likes pissing off the Obama supporters. The OP hates Obama. The Op..... seriously why does it matter? Why get offended over it? That is what I don't get. The OP has his views, I have mine, you have yours.

 

MY POINT EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!! A reasonable post among all the crazy "I am so offended, the OP is a evil racist bigot posts"

REPPED!!!!!

Like I said earlier people just love pulling the race card. Anyone who disagrees or hates Obama simply for political reasons get's attacked as a racist. Obama could be white with a American name and I am sure most people and likely the OP would still attack him and resort to some sort of name calling.

 

ok 'uolj' apparently I repped you before somewhere and must spread it around first

 

If the OP had left out the middle name, do you think people would be calling him a bigot?

 

I don't agree that it's rooted in racism, but it's still very ill-intentioned.

Obama's middle-name is Hussein. Saddam Hussein was a bad guy. Thus, Obama is a bad guy.

It's a stupid, stupid flow of logic, but isn't necessary racism in most cases, I think. It's simply dumb profiling based on his middle name being shared with a dethroned enemy leader of a war we are currently still in... an effort to attribute Obama with a bad guy, really. A pitiful, stupid effort.

 

There is evidence it's one or the other. The OP and others who use the middle name do it when referring to the black guy with a foreign Islamic sounding name. They don't do it for the white Christian president with a very traditional sounding name.

Whether it's a major issue or not, it seems pretty obvious that one of the factors you mention is at play.

 

Well, not to burst your bubble but I think you have entirely missed the point of the majority of the criticism of the middle name usage. And while I disagree with the extra step that charges that it is rooted in racism, I absolutely agree with the criticism of OddsOn's use of it.

The only rational reason offered to include that in the thread title is as flame-bait. You seem to have agreed with this yourself, and OddsOn has done nothing to dispel this notion. So if somebody chooses to include flame-bait as part of their thread, there should not be outrage that the bait is taken and/or called out for what it is. Its mere existence reduces the legitimacy of the thread and the actual topic itself.

If you want to discuss the actual topic, go ahead, somebody might respond if they think it is interesting. Or start your own thread without the flame-bait. But I fail to see the point of you speaking out against those calling out OddsOn for something that he should be rightly criticized for.

 

Sure, it's related to race here. But that doesn't mean it's racism. In my mind, it's far more likely that they find humor in the fact that the name is the same as an evil dictator and they are just trying to poke fun at Obama. I think a similar analogy would be to somebody playing off of Dick Cheney's first name to poke fun or ridicule him.

So, no, I don't think it's obvious at all that racism, bigotry or xenophobia is at play.

 

Well this is why I don't think people should get all worked up over it and what I don't understand. Just ignore the OP's name calling. No reason to get so offended and blow it out of proportion.

 

ask teapartiers and bigots what first comes into mind when they hear Barack Hussein Obama

a) Muslim/Arabic/outsider/not-white
OR
b) relative of an evil dictator

 

But it doesn't matter whether it is based on racism or not, the original complaint stands. Why should we take the thread or the OP seriously if he can't take the thread seriously? And if he makes the conscious choice not to take the thread seriously (which is his prerogative) then he (and you) should not be surprised when others do not take the topic seriously either.

 

I'd imagine it is b. Although I would take out the "relative of" as that has the same problem of assuming the point is to mark Obama as an outsider. I'd also ask the question as the difference between Barack Obama and Barack Hussein Obama. I'd imagine the name Barack Obama does plenty on its own to conjure notions of him being an outsider. Adding the Hussein primarily adds a reference to the evil guy from history with that name.

Do you think if his middle name was Adolf, Hitler or Stalin that nobody would ever use it in the same way as was done here?

 

See but your argument here is the same as kids saying "but he started it first". Why stroke the flame? Why let it offend or bother you like so many posters here claim.

 

Why call anybody out on their bulls**t?

 

Same reason you're doing it now?

 

Ok, it's meant to be a negative and it is related to either race, foreign origin, Muslim, middle eastern, but it's not really racism?

I understand that it isn't a monumental deal, or even that big of a deal, but if you admit it's related to race, only done to the black President, and is meant to be a negative, that cuts pretty close to it being racism.

Your Dick Cheney analogy isn't related to race at all.

 

Unbelievable. The whole thread is a waste because everyone is so sensitive about a man's middle name. Or is everyone trying to hide from the original topic that even a loony leftist like Keith O. is turning on Obama. Obama has done nothing about the oil spill except blame BP. Everyone knows BP is to blame. We need some actual leadership from the commander in chief and all we are getting is rhetoric. Barrack "Unmentionable" Obama is a pathetic leader and President !!!!

 

Oh cml - how I have missed your posts. You're a shining beacon of sane and rational thought in this "den of vipers".

 

Without Olberman's support, the Ossiah is doomed.