bama's Answering Questions Live Right Now At The House GOP Conference

LOL, so predictable

 

Sure, I hope both. I do think my post was civil, even the haircut joke. I truly don't forsee a lot of praise coming for Obama from the TEAPARTY PEOPLE group, even if he did exactly what you want. I could be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong.

You know, it might really be worth 60 minutes of your time. There were some really good and sincere questions, and some good answers, but those weren't exciting enough to make the news summaries. The media just wants the "oooo! no he didn't!" moments. (for media, not you.) A really interesting one came from a Illinois republican who used to work with Obama on a variety of issues, saying it's much harder in DC and that the Dem. house caucus has to share a big part of the blame. It's pretty easy to stream the whole thing.

We are very similar in this idea, though from what I can tell, I think it will manifest a little differently, which is okay.

By the way, a serious question I've been wanting to ask you. What do you think, or what does your group think, about the recent campaign finance decision? I honestly would think this would be an outrage, since it greatly weakens the voice of the citizens in their democracy and greatly increases the odds of corruption. On the other hand, I can see the TEA PARTY PEOPLE express just saying the decision is a win for the 1st amendment. *If* it's the latter, I'm then interested to know when and how a traditionalist movement embraced the corporation as a viable political persona, when it was not so to our founding fathers. Okay, I'll take my answer off the air. Cheers.

edited: now, with sanitized tea!

 

if you honestly want to engage in dialog, you might consider dropping the anti-gay slurs when referring to the Tea Partiers.

just a suggestion.

 

Uh, anti-gay slurs? This, ladies and gents, is what we refer to when we say "hyperbolic rhetoric." You just love to find the most negative, possibly inflammatory nugget and amplify it to all hell.

1. I very honestly do not know what to call their group. thumbs, please tell me your preference, and that's what I'll adopt. Is it "teapartiers?" I had thought teabaggers was the term and that is was better than "the teabagging crowd," which would then definitely refer to the act. If "teapartier" is the term, I'll go ahead and amend that post of mine. Meant no offense. How about "TP" from now on.

2. And... teabagging knows no sexual preference... at least in (ahem) my experience.

3. If it was a gay practice, I fail to see how it's a slur to refer to the act with respect to a group that is clearly not defined by the practice. It's call absurdist humor, at least in my view.

Carry on.

 

LMFAO, you are so pathetic.


You shouldn't have bothered explaining B-Bob, we all know it's an act and that he doesn't believe "teabagger" is an anti-gay slur.

 

Not to mention the fact basso gave up the right to "honest" debate when he started plagiarizing people.

 

But I thought it was fun, and now I kind of like TEA PARTY PEOPLE, TEA PARTYPEOPLE, or even TPP.

 

Watched it last night...

How dickish of the Repubs to give him a dark black background. You can tell their image people were rubbing themselves at the possibility of 2012 ads showing a beat up Obama looking gloomy in front of that darkness.

Unfortunately for them, they believed their own spin about Obama and forgot that he does not need a teleprompter. When he started his beatdown, you could see the confusion on some of the Repubs... it's as if they were looking for a radio producer to hang up on the well-informed caller so they could scream their ridiculousness unchallenged.

 

they believe their own hype that a person of his "background" can be smarter than them

 

Perhaps "TP" might be strangely appropriate since the Tea Party movement might be what needed to flush out the system and then clean up the mess. :grin:

For most discussion Tea Party advocates is a neutral, accurate term for the group. There are the "crazies" in our group, just as there are on the Radical Right and the Radical Left. I am proud to report that the formative groups I have assisted in Oklahoma, Arkansas and Texas try to keep ours at a distance.

 

please stop trying to sell us that tea baggers are neutral. They maybe against some republicans, but they aren't voting democrat. for instance, they have set their sights on John McCain, but it is to run another Republican candidate

 

I think the Supreme Court had to make this decision to maintain the parity of free speech. Unions and "public orgranizations" like Move-On.Org did not have the same restrictions as corporations. Very simply put, when free speech is not free for all, then it is free for no one. The ruling did not affect the illegality of foreign companies contributing to campaigns.

Personally, I agree that this ruling increases the odds of corruption. We need clear laws that govern campaign finance. We saw this in Obama's internet contributions from "donors" who had no address and names like "ffxxzzzee." The same holds true for a myriad of corporate organzations and unions -- each split conveniently so each could contribute the maximum -- undercutting the intent for donor limitation.

Perhaps, the best way to do it is to have all campaign contributions, regardless of the source, go into one central pool and divided equally among the candidates. The devil in this is how we narrow the candidates so there are only two campaigns per elective office.

The Tea Party advocates with whom I am associated are fairly united on the need to govern the massive spending on campaigns. The "how" is still under intense (but civil) debate within the Tea Party movement.

 

Please learn to read. B-Bob was asking how I would suggest for board members to address the movement and I said, "For most discussion Tea Party advocates is a neutral, accurate term for the group."

Pgabriel, you have a nasty tendency to be so small-minded that you assume everybody has the same limitations.

 

LOL, this from the guy criticizing the subject of this thread without having seen the actual subject.

 

thumbs, do you seriously believe that the narrow majority in the SC "had to make this decision to maintain the parity of free speech" ...tossing out precedent going back to 1907, when limits on corporate political spending have became part of U.S. law and Congress banned direct corporate donations to candidates.

In 1947, Congress prohibited corporations from making independent expenditures to support or defeat a political candidate. The principle that corporations should and could be limited in their campaign expenditures has been affirmed multiple times since and was not even challenged by the parties in Citizens United.

http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/news11781.html

I simply don't get it. I'll add that a corporation isn't a "person," and the vast majority of shareholders have little to no influence on the actions of those who hold large chunks of shares, large percentages of the companies, as well as those who run the companies and make the decisions, selected by the last two I mentioned. If you seriously believe that the "man/woman on the street" who's a small shareholder has any decernable influence, with all due respect, you are living in a dream world, a construct of your own that doesn't jive with reality. And I do respect you, as you know.


I'll add that you should watch the exchange between the President and the congressional Republicans in its entirety, rather than the version you've no doubt been seeing that's filtered through the media, which so often has its own agendas.

 

i feel certain you knew it was a pejorative term, used in a snickering, juvenile fashion by madow, olberman, matthews, and indeed, "bama" himself.

my point was to suggest that if you want to have an honest dialog, don't call your opponents names, whether wingnuts, teabaggers, or racist homophobes. it could be construed as an indication that you're not really seriously interested in the dialog.

 

tea baggers is pretty funny though. its not homophobic, yes it was used in sophomoric humor.

 

tea-bagging is gay? Those bastards try to steal everything.

 

basso, you know who first used the word "teabag"? the teabaggers!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

i cant believe you of all people are saying this...

 

that's the true hilarity, yes it was an inside joke on msnbc that "these idiots are calling themsleves nut sacks"