Believe it or not, they were trying to make it less confusing. ------------------ Houston Sports Board The Anti-Bud Adams Page
Seems like the typical liberal response when they don't get their way. Let's make the government fix it! Yep let's demand a re-vote. Be accountable for your actions. Apparently the Bush supporters did a better job in Florida in voting. If you didn't vote you shouldn't be able to vote now and if you screwed up your ballot you don't get a do-over. If Florida is allowed to re-vote then why shouldn't other states. Heck let's keep revoting until Buchannon or Nader wins! But it is funny that Gore couldn't even carry his home state. Maybe that tells you something. ------------------
Why not revote? Who does it hurt? Nobody. If Bush really won Florida then a re-vote would confirm it. It's that simple. If he didn't, then he loses. It's completely fair and no harm is done? Something so easily fixed should be. All we've got to do is make sure everyone has the equal opportunity to vote again. If we let this go, the electors may make their own decisions based on if they feel an injustice was done, or not done. It could get messy. It's a realtively easy fix and doesn't do any harm. It's the right thing to do. Clearly we have confusion. I would say revote in any county that had problems. IF they didn't have problems, then your duplicating what you've already done. and it's a waste of time. In Florida, we have doubt, and everyone can see it. In St. Louis, you have a different issue, but I'd say you've got to let them re-vote as well. They clearly had problems. Nothing worng with that either. For those of you who don't want a re-vote, would you then justify an error such as racial discrimination, or a missing ballot box, or ballot stuffing. They are all problems on the same level. They are mis-representations of the vote. It's that simple. ------------------ humble, but hungry. [This message has been edited by PhiSlammaJamma (edited November 08, 2000).] [This message has been edited by PhiSlammaJamma (edited November 08, 2000).]
I was jsut saying that the ballot does not seem confusing one bit at all to me. I can see how old people might be confused, but I have heard people calling CSpan all day saying how they originally made a mistake on their ballot and just got a new one. Plus, this ballot had been circulating for weeks, as it was law. Now, I didnt vote for Bush or Gore and it makes no difference to me, but I am just skeptical. I also do not think a revote would necessarily be the best solution. Certainly voter choice may change, especially from Nader to Gore, having seen the results. YOu can argue that maybe it is this persons decision to change their vote, but that being said wouldnt it then be neccessary to allwo the whole country to revote as some people inother areas might want to revote and change their mind also. Anyway, the first thing I would do would be seperate those Buchannan votes and do a poll to see if the majority of them actually did vote for Buchannan, if I was going to do any sort of recount/repoll activity. ------------------ Remember.... You are not really drunk until you must hold on to the grass to keep from falling off the earth.
A poll is a good idea. I hope the networks thought of it. It's a good indicator of a problem. ------------------ humble, but hungry.
The fact that it would be against the law and probably unconstitutional would be one thing against it. ------------------ Houston Sports Board The Anti-Bud Adams Page
I am just in shock over the number of presidential candidates they had. Here in Texas we had 3. Choice is good. But do you need a "Socialist", "Workers World", and a "Socialist Workers" party candidate on the ballot? For a bunch of socialists, they should learn to pool their efforts. ------------------
Isn't it up to each State (or county) if they want to re-vote? That's what I've been hearing, but maybe that's not true. Does anybody know exactly what the Constitution says about the state and county elections. That would be a good piece of the puzzle to throw in here. ------------------ humble, but hungry.
Title 3, U.S. Code, Section 1, requires "The electors of the President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President." So unless the revote could happen yesterday, the electors couldn't count according to U.S. law. Florida State law also has no provision for allowing a revote. Unless the Florida legislature passes a law allowing for revotes and makes it retroactive, the vote will stand regardless of whether the voters were confused or not. The best that could be hoped for is that those votes are somehow thrown out because of the ballot confusion, but that probably wouldn't help Gore's chances. ------------------ Houston Sports Board The Anti-Bud Adams Page [This message has been edited by mrpaige (edited November 08, 2000).]
A re-vote would be a huge mistake. Imagine that relatively small community knowing the power they possess. It would be open to abuse and people would not be voting with a clear mind. The voter turnout would be different, people would change votes, it could be manipulated by lobbyists... All things would not be equal! ------------------ Maybe all the rulers are wrong. Current Rocket's Salary & Contract Info
A Revote would do more harm than good. Imagine all the special interest groups hitting Florida. If you think the election was wrong in Florida now, you aint seen nothing if you revote! A revote is a BIG mistake for anyone. I hope that if Gore wins Florida Outright, then Bush would be man enough and love America enough to not drag it on and concede. And I hope that if Bush wins Florida outright, then Gore is man enough and loves America enough not to drag it on and concede. The more this drags on, the more it divides the country. Nearly 50 Million people voted for BOTH candidates. As for the electoral college. I think it some sort of it has to stay. If we went to the straight Popular vote, ALOT of states would be left out of the voting process. Why would a candidate visit or care about Wyoming, or Montana, New Mexico, etc..? Recount the votes in Florida, if Gore is ahead he wins. If Bush is ahead he wins. PERIOD ------------------ "Her Box Started Buzzing Ever Since She Heard The CRÜE"
By the way, in my County we also use those Butterfly ballots. If you look at it, it is NOT confusing at all. You slide your slip in behind it and lock in into place. Then open the booklet up and punch out the holes. Anyone who says that is confusing, dont you see the arrows pointing DIRECTLY at each hole? ------------------ "Her Box Started Buzzing Ever Since She Heard The CRÜE"
Just got some interesting tid bits from the news... Seems that in West Palm beach alone, Pat Buchanan pulled in 32,000 votes. Now if that doesnt overly rule that mistakes were made I dont know what it would take. Also there are widespread, rumblings that voters were haggled, and even persuaded not to vote. Thats tampering on an unimaginable scale. Now Im not saying anything, but being that this is Bush's brothers state, There should be some sort of serious investigation going on because thats just curious. The attorney general's office is saying that his phone has been ringing off the hook, claiming that these accusations are in fact true. ------------------ "I have amazing, powers of observation"...Pink
Mistakes are not enough to allow for a revote or allow for throwing the ballots out. By the way, how many people think this whole thing will end up being decided by the House? ------------------ Houston Sports Board The Anti-Bud Adams Page
I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but every site i go to has buchanan's total vote count at just around 17,000. So perhaps you meant to say 3,200 or perhaps you were misinformed. ------------------ Remember.... You are not really drunk until you must hold on to the grass to keep from falling off the earth.
Your right, my bad. I wasnt trying to overblow the numbers... I really meant 3,200. My apologies to all ------------------ "I have amazing, powers of observation"...Pink
OK! ------------------ Remember.... You are not really drunk until you must hold on to the grass to keep from falling off the earth.
