dangit codell..you know I have that wanker on ignore...why quote him? and since you brought him to my attention.. Snowman, Yetti...whatever.. You just dont like me cause I used to rag on your holier than thou attitude beofre I finally put you on my ignore list.... I have never had the bad taste to rag on someones problems and make fun of them like that little turd did about RT. Maybe you agree with him? If so, that just blows your pretentious little act right out of the freaking water. Get a clue ya little BBS nazi, Yao Ming nutsack hugging git. btw codell..thanks for the backup...
Declan, why would you say banging with EG and MoT only. He will also at the very least be able to see, withness Ewing coaching our big men. He will be around on the court and in the plane and on the bus with Cato, Ewing, Ming, MoT, EG. There is no better group anywhere that can get BAD to understand low post play, rebounding and shot blocking. If he could not hit a FT or a jump shot then I would send him there. He is much further along than we think.
Who knows if Badiane would just sit on the bench all season long? This team is in need of an aggressive and energetic pf. MoT isn't that. Eddie is a mystery. Kato isn't a pf. Even he is he has no offense. Badiane may turn out to be that hustling Najera-type of player based on his style. By keeping him we also don't need to worry about injuries at that spot. If it has to be someone, why not give it to someone that has a future with us instead of some journey men? I'm basing my proposal on the team perspective, not only Badiane's self improvement. We need to make the playoffs. We have the roster spots. Badiane can be helpful for us. Like others pointed out, staying in USA will be good for Badiane. You don't get to learn from Yao and Ewing in a second rate Germany division. Nor would that Germany team invest much into training Badiane, knowing he might be gone in one or two years. Unless they get to take a portion of Badiane's NBA salary, like what the Chinese league does to Yao, I don't see that happening. Maybe spending a year overseas will get Badiane the experience needed to get to the next level, but he can do the same in the NBA, albeit for a longer period. He can wait. He's only 19. At the same time, if his game is good for the team, I say keep him and see what he brings to the table. IMO it pretty much boils down to how good Badiane is now. If he's borderline helpful to the team, please keep him.
Frankly, I believe it's a win/win situation with Badiane.. If he goes overseas, he will definitely get A) much more playing time, and B) much better drilling of the 'fundamentals' .. The drawback, of course, is that when he finally does get here, he'll still take a season or two to develop into the NBA game.. If he stays here, he will learn what it takes to bang in the big leagues a lot sooner, will overcome language barriers (if they even exist - how many languages did Hakeem know before he even got to UH?) sooner, and have the benefit of learning JVG's system at the same time as everyone else.. the drawback is that he would not be as polished a player on the court, at the beginning.. So, I think either way he could eventually become a valuable contributor, but depending on the path, he could end up as a vastly different TYPE of player.. This may be an inaccurate analogy, but the overseas path could produce a more fundamentally sound big man, a-la Duncan, while staying here and just jumping in the deep end from the beginning could produce someone with more of a wild side, a-la Garnett.. (I'm talking styles, not how good they are) .. so maybe the real question is : which style will fit JVG's style the best? I really don't know, bu I suspect the overseas route will make the most sense.. ciao
If you keep him here, he also becomes a FA and you lose control of him one year earlier. That might end up good if he struggles early and you can sign him to a cheaper contract before he busts out but it is a big risk. It's kind of like trying to delay arbitration for a year in MLB. It is a very good thing for the team to do this where you can.
from DearRock: DearRock, I meant no offense at all. I mentioned EG and MoT only becuase of their position. Again, I haven't seen Badiane play, I'm trying to find a way in my mind to agree with you here. I never see the coaching in the European leagues generically criticized, in fact it's usually praised. Coaches throughout the NBA lament that there isn't enough time to get a lot accomplished from a teaching standpoint once the season starts. If you believe Badaine would benefit from being here, that's fine. After reading your posts I'd say I want to see him here period to see the hustle and determination just for my own sanity. But not unless it helps him develop.
Hasn't the Arenas contract brought teams to their senses? Even the Rox signing of TMo allowed for the Rox to 'control' him after the 1st two years, tho they didn't exercise the option. If they keep BADman on the roster then PLEASE go for either three years or at least an option after the 1st contract is completed.
When we picked up Griffin, we were not assuming that he would start, or even get that much playing time. Then of course, we find that Mo Tay gets hurt, and Kenny Thomas gets hurt for a couple of weeks; then what do you know... he gets a chance to start. Griffin played well when he was thrusted into the starting line up a couple of years ago, I think it would be nice to have BAD around for insurance; considering how we always seem to go through a string of injuries at the worst of times. (Steve after we started off well, Mo Taylor before the season started, KT right after Steve went down, Rice after Steve, and of course Rudy getting cancer.)
Sorry, maybe you can revise it to say that I very rarely make cheap cracks at people.. I gets my dander up when someone makes the kind of crack like the original one up there..and the Abomidable Snowman had the temerity to lump me in with that kind of person? I think not.
