Why would the Clippers do that? Are they that desperate to dump Camby's contract? They just got him, after all. I mean, we can make up all sorts of deals that would technically work, but they have to make sense for both teams as well.
Well, it may be hard for the clipps to justify 10m each for camby,randoplh, and kaman Kaman and randolph are young. They might do scola and fillers. I also mentioned dooling and boone for rafer.
Ok, I didn't consider that. Still, I think they can fetch a lot more for Camby then what you suggested. If that's all it took to get Camby, then I think the Rockets would do it in a heartbeat.
I'd argue that anyone we can get as a tall athletic 4/5, we don't want. We're not getting Camby for Scola and garbage. Honestly, i think our PF rotation is very good. I think we definitely lack shot blocking in the second unit but our D doesn't dip that much overall. I think we would be hard pressed to find the big that we all want without giving up too much. I like what we have more than the Joe Smith, Sean Williams, and Brad Miller names being thrown around.
Yes you're right. Camby is averaging a double double, 3 blks 1 steal and a solid assist/to ratio. Yet why is their club losing? Why did he net only a second round pick when the Clipps traded for him? Look at his +/- during the month of december-even in games when he shot a good percentage and grabbed a high number of rebs he still has a negative +/-. Fact is Camby is a stat-padder, and while has impressive stats he does little to justify his 10 million paycheck. In some cases boxscore stats fail to tell the true story, and this is one of them.
Is it possible to acquire Aaron Gray from Chicago? Gray has a big size and started for 10+ games this season. I think it's a good backup C. Gray plus Nocioni - a good trade for Rox, agree?
Sean Williams isn't a bad addition. He has shot blocking power. Remember we don't need our Back up C to play alot of minutes and if he gives up alot of fouls then so be it. We just need someone to give Yao 5-10 minutes of rest without losing height as we current do. I would be happy to have a 7 footer shot blocking machine like Williams. Add T-macs ability to pass to him he could easily get 5 pts a night as well.
Camby is only on 8 this year and 7.6 next. The Clippers made their 'splashes' and loaded up on 'talent' for the next couple of season. They've locked themselves to Kaman/ Davis and Randolph for 3 seasons, so what the heck, they might as well have Camby alongside them. Their total salary for next season is 'only' 56 mill anyway; so that's not a significant issue for them. They'd probably like to think they've assembled a playoff contending team for next season, and are just in despair about a 'slow start' and 'injuries' so far this season. There's very little reason for them to trade Camby away for garbage simply because the garbage expires. If they moved him (to a contender) they'd be asking for number 1 pick(s) back. I think it's safe to say Camby is a fairly unrealistic option. Most guys who we'd salivate over as the 'perfect fit' are probably beyond our reach; and the guys who we COULD get without giving up something significant we probably don't want anyway. Sean Williams seems like a candidate - but would the Nets want more than Luther Head in return? Johan Petro? But if he's falling behind Krstic in the depth charts we're probably better off not going there... Dan Gadzuric might be available, but he's getting paid $21million over the next 3 years... I think if it was as easy a problem to solve as most people on this board think, then Morey might have done something by now? It would appear it 's harder than many posters think to get a quality backup big guy - and we could certainly do worse than a 73 year old Mutombo (see the above options). I'd like to bring back Deke, but perhaps move another player to free up a roster spot (And save some salary) and use that spot to bring in a 'project'. The 6'11 Courtney Sims is smoking the DLeague to the tune of 24ppg, 13rpg and 4bpg. Or the 6'9 James Mays (7'2 reach) is a versatile all-round threat (hitting 1.6 3s per game at 38% 2 spg 1,5bpg 9.5rpg and 22ppg). He's more of a PF type, but with his wingspan might be more of a 'genuine size' at the PF spot than Hayes or Landry. At 440k neither of those guys will break the bank - and surely they'd take the 'non-guaranteed' money option! I know the DLeague is awful - but rebounding and shot blocking (Sims) tend to translate - and his scoring prowess suggests he can make a dunk/ layup when fed. I could think of worse options in a backup FC.
We could still use a big pf/c combo, but we will only acquire one if we can do it and be under the salary cap. Les and Morey have said this over and over again. We have to unload Head's or Francis' contract to do that. Good luck finding any takers on Francis'. If Head continues to play like he has the last couple of weeks you might get a taker, but then the Rockets would probably want to keep him. Bottom line is we are going to war with what we have.
Personallly, I'd like us to make a run at a Brad Miller/Raef LaFrentz type - someone who wouldn't dominate the ball, but could be worked into the flow of the offense.
Maybe the kid from Golden State Rob Kurz or Korz I forget his name. He can shoot the 3 ball and very good weakside shotblocker. And probably pretty cheap. Don't forget the rockets 2nd round draft pick from Oregon who they sent to overseas, I forgot his name but he was extremely impressive in the summer league.
All these trade ideas?, Deke will do just fine. This team likes to go small when Yao's not in the game and as the 22 game when streak proved that they can win while playing small. Deke is just needed to fill in when Yao's in foul trouble and the other team is just shoving down our throat in the paint and can't grab any rebounds. I wouldn't trade anyone just for the sake of having a big man that won't see much P.T. or having to readjust chemistry by introducing new players. Send Head packing and pick up Deke, sounds pretty simple to me.
Yes!! my screen name finally works after a few months. Alright, Rox need Deke back bad. Other trade options are going to disrupt our team. Hayes does a good job on Dirk and Duncan but sux offensively. Scola , cant get rid of him, he hustles and can shoot. Landry shined last year in the playoffs. Rox have all the pieces necessary, now just need a big man to hogg the paint , thats DEKE. And trading Shane is just dumb. Rox will be a defensive monster. Shane, Artest, Deke and at times Hayes.
We struggle against teams with an athletic 4 and a shooting 5... because of Yao, not because of the backup C, or our PFs. People say we need to get Deke to defend those guys. But how much time do you want Deke out there with Yao on the bench? An athletic 4 and a shooting 5 simply are the two kinds of players Yao cannot guard. So it's pick you poison kind of thing. Do you have Yao guard the athletic 4 or the shooting 5, or sit him and give up a big chuck of our offense?
Mutombo is on the top of my wish list for backup center. Another option could be another Georgetown center....Alonzo Mourning. Did he retire, or is he still technically a FA?
I actually said the Rockets should have given Birdman a try when he came from his suspension. In hindsight he would have been a great backup C for the money. His hustle fit this team's personality as well. So unless we get a sleeper for cheap I say the team stays put. You would have to give up a rotation player or two for a well-known, 7 footer with athleticism (those guys don't come cheap). I think the whole problem is exaggerated. Yes, now and again a good post player puts big numbers on the Rockets. It happens. I just don't think it is a big enough issue to mess with the roster.
